Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
I love how people think Bots are what is wrong with the economy.

Now do not get me wrong they are a problem and SE has always failed at handling them both their mmos so far.

But with that said...remove all the bots then what.

Crafters will still make 10xs the armor as needed by the market.
Gathers will mass gather 100xs the materials that crafters need.
And raiders/endgame ppl will continue to not buying stuff a month into raid patches because the gear is complete trash compared to tome/raid drops.

And due to the above this will lead to all those 100s of legit crafters per server to... well constantly undercutting every few minutes to try to off load their 10 armor pieces they just crafted along side a market that has 120 already on there with everyone else trying to mass sell before the prices crash.
I'll quote you a friend of someone I raided with once last expansion who unapologetically botted. "I could crash the market down to 500 gil if I really wanted to. It's still profit to me."

Let that sink in and you'll realize why bots are far worse than any regular person crafting ten armor sets. Not only is a person held back by time, they have an incentive to maximize their cost to profit margin. Bots don't because they aren't actively spending time. Someone who bots while at work essentially gets a free eight hours. Anything they make from those materials is pure profit because they wouldn't have had them otherwise. That's what makes competing with bots so difficult. They can and will crash markets simply because it doesn't matter if something sells for 500, 1000 or 5000.

As people not buying stuff. Raiders aren't your main income source, and never have been after the initial first few weeks. It's the midcore and casual players who buy that gear. Back in Stormblood I made millions months into each patch primarily on people I suspect never touched Savage, or maybe were playing an alt job. Either way, selling stuff only became an issue towards the midway point of Stomblood when more people realized SE does absolutely nothing to bots. Come Shadowbringers and it's a running joke on Discord, Reddit and so forth how incompetent they are handling bots.