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  1. #91
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    Oichi's Avatar
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    Okimi Shikinami
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    At least with bunny farming you're still earning gil as a consolation prize from the chests for 10k/25k/100k with the chance of earning a high value mount (or minion in Pagos's case) to sell on the marketboard or party finder, as well as accumulating logograms for later use.
    Unless you're actively going into Bozja to farm lost actions as well as farming DR for the slim chance of obtaining it's mount/minion, you're probably losing more gil than you gain by going in again and again, especially since you lose lost essences once you step outside the instance. And it doesn't help that you might not even get the action/essence you want due to appraisal rng. It's just a vicious cycle at that point, and one that I refuse to fall into.
    Imo, every single map in the game should have an equivalent to bunnies, with treasure boxes to find that would allow you to get a chance at any reward in game (except Savage and Ultimate ones). And they could add not only bunnie-like creatures guiding you, but other mechanisms that would require puzzles to solve in order to find the treasure chest, etc. That would add a real exploration side to the open world and keep every zone alive. Repeating the same duty hundreds of times in the dwindling hope of getting a particular item (i.e. DR) is frustrating and kills the fun.
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    Last edited by Oichi; 03-20-2021 at 05:46 AM.

  2. #92
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    Xion136's Avatar
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    Eclaire De'wynter
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    At least with bunny farming you're still earning gil as a consolation prize from the chests for 10k/25k/100k with the chance of earning a high value mount (or minion in Pagos's case) to sell on the marketboard or party finder, as well as accumulating logograms for later use.
    Unless you're actively going into Bozja to farm lost actions as well as farming DR for the slim chance of obtaining it's mount/minion, you're probably losing more gil than you gain by going in again and again, especially since you lose lost essences once you step outside the instance. And it doesn't help that you might not even get the action/essence you want due to appraisal rng. It's just a vicious cycle at that point, and one that I refuse to fall into.
    This. SO much this. Delubrum gives you fragments I can't unlock because I don't really want to DO Bozja. But I have to and farm all these resources to make my runs faster, and since RNG is RNG I could go through five runs and not get a single drop. Why bother farming if nothing I do is actually pushing me closer and is actively hurting my attempts to brute-force the RNG?

    It's so stupid, not to mention how the Lost Finds Holster works with you losing actions you swap out. And I don't get gil for ANY delubrum run, Silver coins ONLY go towards Law's Order gear and frankly does nothing for me - I have better gear already, or will be getting it and it as a stopgap is useless.

    So I have these coins I don't need...I don't get gil for delubrum runs, I just get doom and despair.
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  3. #93
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    Yertrune3's Avatar
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    Anzu Yatsurugi
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    Faerie
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Also here in the “gave up and bought it on the market board club” after 124 runs.

    I got two bardings and one mount, so it felt like it was really adamant on giving me everything aside from the hairstyle.

    Since I also really didn’t want to do Bozja, I couldn’t unlock the fragments and sold them along with one of the bardings for roughly 1.8 million gil total on the market board.

    Probably the most inefficient way to earn gil ever, but at least I was making some kind of profit off of it.
    Although, even buying the cheapest fragments off the market board(in order to have basic damage essences for the runs) was cutting into and delaying the rate at which I was raising my gil funds.

    The number of runs I did while not getting it just left me tired and disgusted with the horrible rate and not enjoying the game.

    As soon as I could afford it, I spent almost all the gil I had on it just so I could enjoy the game at my own pace again; instead of wearing down my sanity on an item I might never get to drop because of RNG.

    Saw a youtuber who completed a bunch of relic weapons but never got it to drop so she just bought it off the market board, though she’s a veteran player who crafts a lot so that amount was a drop in the bucket for her; while I’m a relatively new player so it took basically all I had and then some(even worse considering the market board fee. Don’t know what that’s for).
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  4. #94
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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yertrune3 View Post
    (even worse considering the market board fee. Don’t know what that’s for).
    The market board fee is essentially just a Gil sink. Like the repair fee and teleport fee it is meant to take Gil out of the game to slow down the inflation.
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  5. #95
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    I'd be willing to bet we see an increase in drop rates with 5.5 in a few weeks.
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  6. #96
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    Astrid Arkwright
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    Brynhildr
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    Did they ever increase the drop rates on the one out of Eureka? HoH/PoTD?
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    Did they ever increase the drop rates on the one out of Eureka? HoH/PoTD?
    They did on the Shiver emote and I'm sure others as well. Whether or not they're ready to do that with 5.5 remains to be seen.
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  8. #98
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    They did on the Shiver emote and I'm sure others as well. Whether or not they're ready to do that with 5.5 remains to be seen.
    I don't recall them ever increasing the drop rate on the Shiver emote. They certainly didn't on PotD/HoH stuff, though those were never too absurd to begin with.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  9. #99
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    I don't recall them ever increasing the drop rate on the Shiver emote. They certainly didn't on PotD/HoH stuff, though those were never too absurd to begin with.
    It was changed in patch 4.57

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  10. #100
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    Okimi Shikinami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xion136 View Post
    This. SO much this. Delubrum gives you fragments I can't unlock because I don't really want to DO Bozja. But I have to and farm all these resources to make my runs faster, and since RNG is RNG I could go through five runs and not get a single drop. Why bother farming if nothing I do is actually pushing me closer and is actively hurting my attempts to brute-force the RNG?

    It's so stupid, not to mention how the Lost Finds Holster works with you losing actions you swap out. And I don't get gil for ANY delubrum run, Silver coins ONLY go towards Law's Order gear and frankly does nothing for me - I have better gear already, or will be getting it and it as a stopgap is useless.

    So I have these coins I don't need...I don't get gil for delubrum runs, I just get doom and despair.
    I agree. I've ran out of essences for all of my jobs after around 150 DR, and I don't feel like farming them any more, let alone buying them (rng gives me most of the time useless lost actions instead of essences when I appraise a fragment anyway). There is no way to enjoy the feeling of being a hamster running a wheel for ever and for nothing. And that is the feeling I get by now.
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