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    Ralph2449's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeshLives View Post
    You should expect people at that level to be decent at it.

    It's only a game. Don't tie your self-worth or the worth of anyone else to it, please.
    Imo that attitude doesn’t belong anywhere really because of basic math.

    Let me give you an example with numbers

    100% performance, that would be perfect performance in a target dummy
    93% performance, that would be perfect play within an encounter (obviously depends on encounter)
    80% performance, that would be an example of a good/decent player within an encounter.

    Now in an encounter there is a require common bar performance ‘required’ to beat the encounter, that performance % gets higher the higher content you do and that group wide number but obviously it is never 90%, it is very often far below what the elite believe it is since they want to believe they achieved something great but even in extreme the group wide performance requirement can be as low as 60% or even less, there’s always a big gar between a good player and the performance requirement of almost all group content.

    Of course it never happens that everyone in the group is at 60% performance, there’s always good players and below average players, your group might have someone at 40% performance which is below ‘required’ performance yet if you have someone who is at 80% which makes the encounter doable just fine, some elitist would say that the good player shouldn’t ‘carry scrubs’ yet this feeling only exists because they have forgotten this is a video game and not their source or self worth so they love to try to push ‘scrubs’ further down to tell themselves they are elite and superior again IN A VIDEO GAME.

    You would think these ‘elite’ players would revel in the chance to try play better in order to get the group ahead with their skill but nope, gotta blame the average player whose ego isn’t based on video game performance.

    *obviously gear also plays a major part in influencing that % but this is an example


    Quote Originally Posted by Raelsar View Post
    Eh... it's not that simple, but I think we can see some high-end players (perhaps it could be those more accustomed to WoW's more "direct" cultural norms) chaffing under the enforced requirement to behave themselves.
    Which is exactly why I remind them that this ain’t WoW, that tryhard elitist attitude isn’t tolerated

    Quote Originally Posted by Raelsar View Post
    In other words, lead by example.
    Don't be bossy, be the guy who helps the team out.
    Pretty much this, if I see a mistake happening in a fight I don’t start raging at that person, I say something neutral like ‘be careful to avoid stacking lighting, it is an one shot’, nobody is targeted, nobody is insulted, nobody pretends to be better than others to putting people down, someone is merely saying how the fight works which is very very very different than than telling people what to do because you have deluded yourself you are some elite who deserves the respect of others in a VIDEO GAME.
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    KeshLives's Avatar
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    Birgitte Trahelion
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph2449 View Post
    You would think these ‘elite’ players would revel in the chance to try play better in order to get the group ahead with their skill but nope, gotta blame the average player whose ego isn’t based on video game performance.
    Well, the truly elite players don't do this.

    It's the tryhards who *think* they are elite and feel they 'need' to be recognized as elite that cause the problems. They're the ones who look for someone to blame, instead of looking to themselves. I see it in real life, too, so it's just a manifestation in game of the same people you see irl who *must have someone to blame*. Taking responsibility for themselves is unheard of. They're perfect, and already know all there is to know.

    Just people. The less you have of this type, the better off you are. Thankfully, FFXIV discourages these people. WoW does not.
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