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    Andrean Lackland
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    It's not just solo fcs that are dead. There's are fcs in my ward with a few lvl 50 characters as members and they have been lvl 50 for several years.
    Evidently, there are still people in the FC that are active. I don't see what the issue is. If it was a personal, it wouldn't be a problem but for some reason because there's an FC tag attached we expect a community to be present when we acknowledge that a single person owning a house is fine. Frankly, I'm more annoyed with houses that aren't even decorated, but there's no way for SE to do anything about that: even if they said a house has to have 20% of the max amount of furnishings possible for that house size, people would just pile shit on the ground floor and continue to not decorate. Let's just give subs and rooms for tenants to personals and stop pretending to care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    Evidently, there are still people in the FC that are active. I don't see what the issue is.
    If you call staying the same lvl for several years and only logging in to reset a demo timer being active, then sure that's active :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    Frankly, I'm more annoyed with houses that aren't even decorated
    Most of the gardens have no decoration aside from gardening patches that never have any crops. Some don't even have aetherytes. I can't comment on the interiors because the houses are locked but I doubt they were given much attention.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 03-14-2021 at 05:44 AM. Reason: rephrasing because I can't english

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    One person in the FC is active and that's enough. If they had a personal house, it would be no different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    One person in the FC is active and that's enough. If they had a personal house, it would be no different.
    Actually it is different because you can only have one personal per server per account but this isn't the case with fc houses. Some of these clusters of dead fcs are owned by one person. This is why some players think there needs to be a mechanic in the game that tracks fc activity beyond just resetting a demo timer. Resetting the timer is near zero effort whereas something like the fc credit tax isn't. It would be difficult for one person to juggle so many different fcs on their own if that credit tax was in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    One person in the FC is active and that's enough. If they had a personal house, it would be no different.
    If one active player is enough to be considered a FC, then every player should have full access to all FC perks. It also wouldn't required four players to register a FC. It would only require one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    If one active player is enough to be considered a FC, then every player should have full access to all FC perks. It also wouldn't required four players to register a FC. It would only require one.
    They need to remove the FC perks from FC housing except for buffs and obviously the social aspects of why FC's are created to begin with. Airships and gardening should be available for all and not simply for the FC leadership for which is the case in most cases. Some of us use FC's to share a house with alts as well and personally that's a very legitimate reason for creating a small FC at the moment given SE has found that sharing a house with alts is something they have a hard time doing.

    They need to make it so only one character per server can be the leader of a FC just like only one personal house can be purchased per account per server.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 03-16-2021 at 12:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    at the moment given SE has found that sharing a house with alts is something they have a hard time doing.
    Have they said that? I thought they just sort of forgot that many of us have alts. I'd be satisfied with being able to make my alts tenets, but I guess that requires them to figure out friending or mailing your own characters. At least a teleport would be nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    Have they said that? I thought they just sort of forgot that many of us have alts. I'd be satisfied with being able to make my alts tenets, but I guess that requires them to figure out friending or mailing your own characters. At least a teleport would be nice
    It was over 2 years ago and they haven't addressed it yet. Personally I want to be able to share a house with my alts. I've created small FC's off server for them and they can share the house and the FC chest and so on. I also share those FC's with friends so it's not simply a share with alts thing for me.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 03-16-2021 at 01:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    Have they said that? I thought they just sort of forgot that many of us have alts. I'd be satisfied with being able to make my alts tenets, but I guess that requires them to figure out friending or mailing your own characters. At least a teleport would be nice
    I doubt they've forgotten it. At the time they mentioned it, they said there were technological hurdles they needed to figure out how to overcome. It looks like they haven't been able to figure it out.

    If they would just let players friend their own alts, it wouldn't be an issue since someone has to be on your friends lists before you can make them a tenant. Since players were able to do that at one time (granted through an exploit), we know it's not technically impossible to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    They need to remove the FC perks from FC housing except for buffs and obviously the social aspects of why FC's are created to begin with. Airships and gardening should be available for all and not simply for the FC leadership for which is the case in most cases. Some of us use FC's to share a house with alts as well and personally that's a very legitimate reason for creating a small FC at the moment given SE has found that sharing a house with alts is something they have a hard time doing.

    They need to make it so only one character per server can be the leader of a FC just like only one personal house can be purchased per account per server.
    They wont ever make it so only one character per server can the leader of a FC. There is a auto promotion feature in place to promote the next highest ranking most active member to the rank of leader, should the FC leader go offline for too long a time. Restricting it so only one character per server can be FC leader would conflict with that feature. It just conflicts with FC promotion in general and would cause a headache for FC leaders.
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    Last edited by NanaWiloh; 03-18-2021 at 04:30 PM.