toxic tank end game?

[Theodric]

On one hand the path of least resistance is to just turn off tank stance and settle for being an off tank for the duration of the duty. On the other hand, it's frustrating for aspiring and rusty tanks to enter a duty with the hope of getting some practice in only to be denied the opportunity even if they speak up and ask to be able to take charge.

[linayar]

ask to be able to take charge.

You don't ask to be able to take charge. You take charge, hence the phrase.

[Kikoten]

I don't tank often, so I'm unfamiliar with tank etiquette in certain situations. I remember there was a time I guess I was that toxic tank, without the intention of causing problems. I noticed the main tank had some vulnerability stacks on him. I thought, "Let me take that aggro so you don't die, buddy," and I provoked it off him. I died. I didn't feel stupid at all, I actually felt like I saved the main tank from a gruesome death. At the same time, I later thought about it and realized it was probably unnecessary. So if I steal aggro, I'm not doing it to be a jerk. Half the time I don't even know what I'm doing.

[TheMightyMollusk]

You don't ask to be able to take charge. You take charge, hence the phrase.

And then the other tank(s) keep fighting for control, and the boss spins around, probably cleaving people and certainly irritating melee DPS trying to hit positionals.

[linayar]

And then the other tank(s) keep fighting for control, and the boss spins around, probably cleaving people and certainly irritating melee DPS trying to hit positionals.

Reasonable people wouldn't when they see another tank has aggro. Unreasonable people would regardless.

[TheMightyMollusk]

That was my point. "Just take charge" is poor advice in a cooperative group game.

[Lanadra]

I'm leveling my first tank to try it out, and my experience in alliance raids is that I'll turn on tank stance and simply turn it back off and move on with my life if another tank also activates tank stance.

While I've occasionally seen ping-pong drama while queuing as DPS, I've never actually participated in it as a tank.

Same here.

It's pretty common for me to ultimately just turn off tank stance and almost act as blue DPS for most of the run in the alliance raids I most get from roulette.. usually Syrcus Tower. On rare occasions I'll see nobody stepping up and main tank the entire raid. I've only seen pissing contests in alliance raids maybe in total five times since I started playing 8 or so months ago.. and when they happen I just bow out.. not worth it.

[linayar]

That was my point. "Just take charge" is poor advice in a cooperative group game.

I don't know, that's what happens normally. A tank pulls and off you go.

[van_arn]

I answered the entire thread in the first reply and somehow it’s about leadership three pages in.

Heck, the best part about tanking and leadership is when you get to be lazy.

Aim to be as lazy as possible.

Words of inspiration provided by me; take them with you and do great things.

[Fable_Frost]

Alliance 'B' is usually the main tank.. easy done.