ROYAL RUBY • NIGHTCLUB • BEHEMOTH/PRIMAL

[MilkieTea]

In that sense, we'd technically all be off-topic, and that's technically against the rules, so... I guess we should all be temp. banned.
Guilt-mongering is fun.

lmao "guilt-mongering" where.

[Kaurhz]

eh it's harmless and it's not like 99% of the threads in general are anymore worthwhile anyway lol

Sure, it's harmless, but then it also sets a bad precedent going forward about how this subthread can be used.

Can you imagine if those advertising for clear sales were to do the same thing in this subforum? and those guys don't even have the consideration to use the "Other" category either, so I would argue they'd even bump and necro their own threads.

[Bsrking5]

So when is it open next time?

[NanaWiloh]

Honestly, I've always thought the whole concept was odd. Like I get RP in a story sense, like your character going through the story. What choices they would make in given situations, etc. But nightclub, or casino RP? Take out the ERP element... It's just a bunch of adults playing pretend. Pretend "staff", though they are APPARENTLY actual "staff", because gil actually changes hands, and they get paid. Wild stuff. Maybe I just have a low attention span.

Bards playing music are pretending to be musicians This is a game and games are all about playing pretend in some form.

[Archpoet]

So when is it open next time?

The Royal Ruby is open Friday nights from 9pm - 12am (ish) Pacific.
As stated previously in this thread, we do not support ERP.

We have an RP bar, fine dining experience as well as personally curated music played by a DJ-bot in discord.
I will look forward to seeing you sometime!

[SturmChurro]

Bards playing music are pretending to be musicians This is a game and games are all about playing pretend in some form.

I disagree. Bards actually have a built in music feature, so they can actually play music - if they had the skill. As an example, "Night Club" RP would make more sense if this game was Second Life or IMVU, etc, in my opinion.

Many of these type of "venues" are designed to actually make Gil, for "services". ERP, and non-ERP. That is why many of them are advertising, especially the ERP ones.

[rance-sama]

[NanaWiloh]

I disagree. Bards actually have a built in music feature, so they can actually play music - if they had the skill. As an example, "Night Club" RP would make more sense if this game was Second Life or IMVU, etc, in my opinion.

Many of these type of "venues" are designed to actually make Gil, for "services". ERP, and non-ERP. That is why many of them are advertising, especially the ERP ones.

Real skill belongs to the players who have translated music for the music system. Not every bard playing music wrote the music or even knows how to translate it over, some are just copying the work of others. After a quick search on FF14 bard music found that there is a program that will play musical pieces for you. So goes without saying there are true musicians and those that pretend to have skill when they truly dont.

Side note finding the program confirmed what I thought about a five bard group on Behemoth months back. They put on a awesome show but it was clear that it was Multi-Boxer and no way they were controlling all five manually.

[Saefinn]

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NGL the paying of gil for the services is suspect. Whilst I get paying real gil could add more to the immersion, but 10,000 for a steak is steep. With it being seeming to be real gil, they're gonna make bank. Most venues I see in the RP world only charge pretend gil, I run a tavern with my FC and we at most charge 200gil for something and that's pretend gil & from what I've seen is about average.

I figure a nightclub may have a space if inspired by something like the place in Eulmore or something that fits in the game world, but on this one? I suspect you're right about it. And I am surprised people pay that much because I'm not seeing anything on their website that would give a hook over any of the many free venues out there.

And I guess to answer your earlier question. Really, it varies, there's a diversity in the type of RPers and why they RP and why tavern-type RP can be useful and appealing.

I guess I can break it down to 4 basic types (and probably oversimplifying it):
- People who RP because they like to write, they find the game world interesting and it's a collaborative form of writing for them where they develop characters, write plots and so on.
- People who like the game world and try some kind of pseudo-tabletop experience and it'd be like playing Dungeons and Dragons, maybe with their own simplified ruleset for combat
- People who enjoy the social aspect
- People who self insert and their character is an avatar of themselves in that world.

I can give my perspective at least (as they will vary), I consider myself the first. I love the game's lore, I love writing and I love Final Fantasy in general and this exists as a creative outlet.

I like the social aspect too and you make friends doing it. And I blur into the second point when running plots because you need a system to resolve situation situations especially combat. Though the approach I use is less tabletop inspired but more I'll write combat based on certain mechanics and the reward/outcome is based on how characters react to those mechanics and I will throw in extra points for creativity.

There's other aspects to enjoy. The tavern concept is a good place to meet other players, see how well your characters meld. But it can also be slice-of-life and character development can happen in these social interactions. And the "slice-of-life" genre has a following, so you'll have people who will RP it. You'll find RP for every kind of genre.

You also get people who RP entertainers, which will show up at taverns and other social events, one of my characters is one. But people do some cool stuff with it, we of course know about the bard performance feature, which is one avenue. There's people who write whole dance routines to music. People who write songs in time to music. There's storytellers (which is something I do) and even plays & some of those plays are well done given the tools available.

[LianaThorne]

NGL the paying of gil for the services is suspect. Whilst I get paying real gil could add more to the immersion, but 10,000 for a steak is steep. With it being seeming to be real gil, they're gonna make bank. Most venues I see in the RP world only charge pretend gil, I run a tavern with my FC and we at most charge 200gil for something and that's pretend gil & from what I've seen is about average.

Kind of tangenting a little but while we're talking about paying in gil while at RP venues, I personally have never been to one that DOESN'T make you pay with real gil. If "free" venues exist, they are few and far between. I've seen prices ranging from 3k-500k+ for certain services (not including ERP cause that's a whole other beast). I consider myself to be well off in the game and don't mind spreading the gil around, but asking for 500k for unlimited fake drinks for the night is robbery. Just being honest.

I also feel that a lot of people are getting into running venues because of how much gil people do make if their venue is popular, like without even having any love for roleplay at all. It's kind of sad/gross in my opinion to profit off a community you don't even recognize yourself as part of. But that's just my take on it.