How to make the game better for new players?

[Bright-Flower]

I disagree. It is gear that makes old content imbalanced. Look at the Crystal Tower raids. Or Void Ark. Or even old dungeons synced down, with players still having an edge just because of their gear. That being said, they should have tweaked the boss HP levels or something to reflect that growth, but they did not. If anything, our characters are way too strong in some instances and could use some nerfing in the form of a lower synced item level. The Ivalice and Nier raids are much more balanced in this regard, though that doesn't completely stop players from steamrolling through Rabanastre.

I think it's intentional. They want the older raids to become easier so that people do them in roulettes. Even orbonne is MUCH, MUCH EASIER today than it was when it first came out due to gear. If it wasn't they could just lower the syncing cap to keep people closer to gear levels from when they were relevant, but they don't.

The nier raids too will succumb to this in 6.0 when people are level 90 and ilvl 600 or w/e.

[Vahlnir]

I think it's intentional. They want the older raids to become easier so that people do them in roulettes. Even orbonne is MUCH, MUCH EASIER today than it was when it first came out due to gear. If it wasn't they could just lower the syncing cap to keep people closer to gear levels from when they were relevant, but they don't.

The nier raids too will succumb to this in 6.0 when people are level 90 and ilvl 600 or w/e.

I don't doubt it's intentional. I just don't agree with it. lol

Almost got my friend to play it since he loves ff8....bbuu the job he wanted to main was gated to 60 and that turned him off completely that he couldn't enjoy his job at 1 or even 30

Leveling isn't too hard though. Heck, they could be lvl 60 before they even touched a lot of the MSQ if they played their cards right.

[Bright-Flower]

I don't doubt it's intentional. I just don't agree with it. lol

I think it's necessary at least to a degree. If Orbonne for example was just as hard as on release, a lot of people would just jump ship when it comes up, or not have the patience to teach new people trying to get their clears so they can get into bozja or just see the story etc.

[Vahlnir]

I think it's necessary at least to a degree. If Orbonne for example was just as hard as on release, a lot of people would just jump ship when it comes up, or not have the patience to teach new people trying to get their clears so they can get into bozja or just see the story etc.

To some degree, yeah. I agree with that. But not to the levels it is currently.

[ItMe]

To some degree, yeah. I agree with that. But not to the levels it is currently.

Probs one of the things that compelled them to implement a stat squish.
Though as I understand it the ease of old duties is not because of your gear. Crystal Tower was easier in ShB than SB despite the game synching you down to the same level. Why? Potency creep making our attacks just legitimately better. Your kit simply pumps out more damage.
I've noticed that exploding skeletons in Labyrinth of the ancients can still wipe parties if they all go off at the same time and the healers aren't prepared. If gear creep were behind it we'd all just feel a tickle and keep moving. We're not more tanky, we just output damage like nothing else because the primary culprit is our kits.

[Vahlnir]

Probs one of the things that compelled them to implement a stat squish.
Though as I understand it the ease of old duties is not because of your gear. Crystal Tower was easier in ShB than SB despite the game synching you down to the same level. Why? Potency creep making our attacks just legitimately better. Your kit simply pumps out more damage.
I've noticed that exploding skeletons in Labyrinth of the ancients can still wipe parties if they all go off at the same time and the healers aren't prepared. If gear creep were behind it we'd all just feel a tickle and keep moving. We're not more tanky, we just output damage like nothing else because the primary culprit is our kits.

Increased stats = more damage, so that is also a factor.

[ItMe]

Increased stats = more damage, so that is also a factor.

It doesn't matter if your crit is 9000 or 99999999, it'll synch down to the same value when you enter the Crystal Tower.
Coming in with a larger number means nothing so long as you reach the cap your stats can synch down to (which for Crystal Tower I think you can do with level 55-58 gear).

[Jirah]

I don't doubt it's intentional. I just don't agree with it. lol



Leveling isn't too hard though. Heck, they could be lvl 60 before they even touched a lot of the MSQ if they played their cards right.

thats what i said but he didnt wanna level something he didnt wanted just to start the job he wanted fully leveled. Hes one of those ppl that likes to level what he likes

[Vahlnir]

thats what i said but he didnt wanna level something he didnt wanted just to start the job he wanted fully leveled. Hes one of those ppl that likes to level what he likes

Whatever floats their boat I guess. It's their loss, really.

[HyoMinPark]

I disagree. It is gear that makes old content imbalanced. Look at the Crystal Tower raids. Or Void Ark. Or even old dungeons synced down, with players still having an edge just because of their gear. That being said, they should have tweaked the boss HP levels or something to reflect that growth, but they did not. If anything, our characters are way too strong in some instances and could use some nerfing in the form of a lower synced item level. The Ivalice and Nier raids are much more balanced in this regard, though that doesn't completely stop players from steamrolling through Rabanastre. I'm guessing all of this is at least a small factor in their reasoning to perform their future stat squish.

I think it’s both gear and rotations that lead to older content being trivialized (outside of general nerfs). Just look at some jobs in synced content versus others. A good example is level 70 NIN versus level 70 SAM. So much of SAM’s core rotation is now post-70 that it is actually one of the weakest jobs in UCoB. NIN, on the other hand, is laughably overpowered in there. You can also throw DNC or RDM in level 50 content and they are stupidly overpowered compared to other level 50 jobs. Especially those that had a lot pruned throughout the years.

So there is the gear aspect, but there’s also the design of each job at each capstone.

I think it's intentional. They want the older raids to become easier so that people do them in roulettes. Even orbonne is MUCH, MUCH EASIER today than it was when it first came out due to gear. If it wasn't they could just lower the syncing cap to keep people closer to gear levels from when they were relevant, but they don't.

The nier raids too will succumb to this in 6.0 when people are level 90 and ilvl 600 or w/e.

It’s more that Orbonne is the only 24-man they put automatic Echo in (lol) and they also nerfed Thundergod Cid. So it’s less so gear and more that, in my opinion. Orbonne was never hard. It just required more than autopilot from a player.

That's been the problem with the system from the start. They actually have a button bloat issue at end-game that really pushes the limit on what people can rote memorize with some jobs, so it turns into how do you get enough to make the job interesting without breaking it. Melee DPS is absolutely the worst due to also having to manage positionals and it really shows in savage with all the deaths they keep accumulating to boss mechanics.

Being in discord it feels like back seat driving with the melee to make sure they get call outs and don't die to things.

If you are a melee DPS and have to rely on mechanical callouts to not die, that is entirely a you problem and not at all an issue with a particular job or its buttons. Plenty of melee DPS hit positionals just fine and do mechanics without dying. If you can’t do both, then you need to practice more.

As for the button bloat, there’s arguably only a couple jobs that suffer from “button bloat”. Most jobs can fit all their skills comfortably on two cross hotbars (if you’re a controller user). Other jobs like the physical ranged have empty space due to the sheer lack of skills they have. Just look at DNC.