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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    As far as I remember, it was their "last chance" to add any new races. So they did their beast race, and the fan favorite viera. The compromise was no male viera or female hrothgar - which would have been the equivalent of two new races if they had been added. They probably were just able to fit them in with their ShB budget.
    And funnily enough they’ve changed that stance now to “we’ll see what the future holds”. It’s pure marketing manipulation at its finest. We saw it when yoshi wouldn’t give a direct answer about male viera and fem hroth and instead said look forward to the fanfest. It’s basically what they’ve done with viera and hroth hair. Look forward to it sometime in the future but not now because we need to add angel wings and parasols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    And funnily enough they’ve changed that stance now to “we’ll see what the future holds”. It’s pure marketing manipulation at its finest. We saw it when yoshi wouldn’t give a direct answer about male viera and fem hroth and instead said look forward to the fanfest. It’s basically what they’ve done with viera and hroth hair. Look forward to it sometime in the future but not now because we need to add angel wings and parasols.
    Well, back on ShB launch Yoshida pretty much said the same thing. Not a "no" but a, "maybe in the future". I do think a lot of what is said is disingenuous however, like that whole "look forward to the fanfest".

    I do tend to believe Yoshida though, for the foreseeable future they do not have the budgeting to maintain, or create another new race (equivalent male viera/female hrothgar). If something changes "perhaps", that's why he won't shut the door on it. Though, the way I tend to read his statements, I'd say any actual new races are an almost definite "never". Male Viera/female hrothgar, are a "maybe one day".

    Viera hair and hrothgar faces, if I recall correctly, was more of a definite "YES!" yet we have seen nothing, that's what's frustrating.

    Quote Originally Posted by -JayJay- View Post
    But that's what gets me. We're not only sitting with both having no opposite genders but also sitting with some really lackluster customization options. And new hairstyles were promised at the very least. I genuinely don't understand why they couldn't have had the whole situation with their customization options mapped out at the very least so players wanting to use these two races wouldn't have to go patch after patch missing out on customization options that other races can use while these two can't.
    Agreed, I had assumed viera hair/hrothgar faces (updates) would have been part of the plan, but I guess not. They made them for ShB and then left them seemingly without any actual plans to update them; put on the backburner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I really would love to know how SE found the time to make seven new hairstyles for all the pre-ShB races, who don't all have the same shape head, while viera and hrothgar got nothing.

    It just looks like intentional exclusion.
    Simple. They pre-planned these hairstyles (hairstyle contest?). Plans for these hairs were mapped out prior, viera/hrothgar updates were not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Simple. They pre-planned these hairstyles (hairstyle contest?). Plans for these hairs were mapped out prior, viera/hrothgar updates were not.
    But it's not as if viera and hrothgar were made in a day. The development time for those two races and those seven hairstyles would have had some overlap, assuming both were developed during SB. And if the hairstyles were developed before SB...then that still doesn't explain why the new races couldn't even get ONE.

    I think the decision to tie hrothgar hair to faces is why we haven't seen anything. But SE made that decision and would have known the obstacles it would create so...still no excuse. No one forced them to give hrothgar hair the au ra horn treatment. No one forced them to make that ludicrously stupid decision.

    Sigh, I just want to have some more choice. I only like one of the viera hairstyles and I love plenty of the non racial styles. At this point I would purchase outfits I have no interest in just to get some new hair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Sigh, I just want to have some more choice.
    As do I. Of the hairstyles I actually like and use, almost all of them are from the days of ARR.

    To say nothing of the fact that the development team have yet to find a way to add the highly requested stubble used by the Warrior of Darkness in official footage, but went out of their way to find a way to make the 2B outfit adjust the size of a female character's bum when equipped.
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