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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    The other races have received about 7 or 8 hairstyles just this expansion, while Viera and Hrothgar got a grand total of zero anything since their release.

    Au Ra horns and lack of male highlander eyebrows are annoying for sure, but it's hardly "tweaking" or giving special privileges to add anything to Viera and Hrothgar at this point that would be considered a kick in the teeth to the other races.

    Viera and Hrothgar players wouldn't have teeth left with that logic.
    Yet most of those new hairstyles have been designed to be very niche - at least for those of us who play male characters. Often they're touted as unisex but often just adhere to feminine/androgynous aesthetics.

    Again, I'm not saying that Viera and Hrothgar should not have their issues fixed. They should. Yet I'd rather the development team throw a bone to players of every race, not just the most recent additions.

    With any luck, when we reach the May announcement showcase they'll reveal just that as one of the selling points of Endwalker.
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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Yet most of those new hairstyles have been designed to be very niche - at least for those of us who play male characters. Often they're touted as unisex but often just adhere to feminine/androgynous aesthetics.

    Again, I'm not saying that Viera and Hrothgar should not have their issues fixed. They should. Yet I'd rather the development team throw a bone to players of every race, not just the most recent additions.

    With any luck, when we reach the May announcement showcase they'll reveal just that as one of the selling points of Endwalker.
    What bone? The others have 100 bones while Viera and Hrothgar have 50 bones. The others have to wait until Viera and Hrothgar have 100 bones as well.
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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Endwalker
    • No male Viera, no female Hrothgar
    • No female Viera and male Hrothgar hats
    • No new female Viera and male Hrothgar hairstyles
    What are they using their resources on?
    I was this ready to buy the Wasshoi emote they added but I won't now, not until they work on Viera/Hrothgar. There's absolutely nothing to go "Wasshoi" about for those 2 races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Endwalker
    • No male Viera, no female Hrothgar
    • No female Viera and male Hrothgar hats
    • No new female Viera and male Hrothgar hairstyles
    What are they using their resources on?
    I was this ready to buy the Wasshoi emote they added but I won't now, not until they work on Viera/Hrothgar. There's absolutely nothing to go "Wasshoi" about for those 2 races.
    I would wait until May when they have those 2 days of packed info/content regarding Endwalker before whining.
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    Aylin Bielawska
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    I would wait until May when they have those 2 days of packed info/content regarding Endwalker before whining.
    I vehemently disagree: everyone should be expressing grievances as they have them.
    For one thing, it's always important for a developer to know that there are grievances, that way they can't really get away with saying something like "we didn't know (you still felt this way)."
    For another, this game has a history of promises that aren't delivered on, along with a tradition of players who keep trying to push the time for others to complain to later and later dates with newer and newer goalposts, usually because they, themselves, like what's happening, want to (blindly) whiteknight for ol' sensitive Squeen, or even just don't necessarily care about what's going on and just don't want to feel like they should care one way or the other and would rather just not see it at all.
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    Khloe Entialpoh
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    I would wait until May when they have those 2 days of packed info/content regarding Endwalker before whining.
    Waiting is one thing, but deciding to stay silent until X day doesn't prove anything or add to the issue
    It just makes designers think the playerbase is complacent

    People have to keep asking just to have a request made into reality
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    What bone? The others have 100 bones while Viera and Hrothgar have 50 bones. The others have to wait until Viera and Hrothgar have 100 bones as well.
    A situation created by their decision to add these races when they lacked the resources to do it in the first place. If anything, it would've been more prudent to address the limitations of their graphics engine first - which apparently is something they're now actively reviewing - and then adding new races, rather than this bind they created for themselves.

    Regarding the 100 bones - granted, the older races have more flexibility in some respects, but many of them are plagued by design issues, be it the way elezen move, highlanders' severe limitations of good faces and the idiotic inability to add eyebrows for "lore" reasons, the au ra hips/clipping, and so on. I can certainly understand the frustration directed at them, in the sense that to see updates to the existing races we must wait for them to address how they bungled up the new races.

    With that said, I am also curious where their resources are going. They keep saying it's not money but manpower but I doubt it's either, so much as the choice of where to put the money the game is bringing in. The work they keep referencing that would go into this isn't particularly specialised work. We see scaling back on multiple fronts. The graphics engine upgrade is not something in the works at present, just something they're actively looking at, so on that basis doesn't seem to be what's taking up their attention. EW isn't bringing any groundbreaking new features. So what is consuming their focus?
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