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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I like abbreviations I can read out whenever possible, so ARC to me is better than ACN by a wide margin. Although I reference that so little that I think I just spell it out all the way rather than the abbreviation. Should be SMN or SCH at the point we are taking frequent repeats of use that justify needing an acronym, rather than ACN lol.
    But isn't arc archer? They already had an existing class with that acronym when arcanist was added to the game...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    But isn't arc archer? They already had an existing class with that acronym when arcanist was added to the game...
    What's archer? lol There is only bard.

    Funny to be reminded that's actually in the game. I don't think I've disused that in years. . (archer), no point to bring it up in normal conversations xD.

    Arcanist gets mentioned because of the whole SCH / SMN split thing.

    Maybe not the best example then but I still like ARC over ACN (yet clearly taken, by a relic of time ), or maybe another example in that I like PUG instead of PGL. BOT instead of BTN.

    Like if I was referring to Alchemist I'd be happy to use ALC but Carpenter never registers, at least in some natural way, as CRP. Crrrrppp. See.. Role play.. krr... paaah.. Honestly I'd probably prefer to call them CAR lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    What's archer? lol There is only bard.

    Funny to be reminded that's actually in the game. I don't think I've disused that in years. . (archer), no point to bring it up in normal conversations xD.

    Arcanist gets mentioned because of the whole SCH / SMN split thing.

    Maybe not the best example then but I still like ARC over ACN (yet clearly taken, by a relic of time ), or maybe another example in that I like PUG instead of PGL. BOT instead of BTN.

    Like if I was referring to Alchemist I'd be happy to use ALC but Carpenter never registers, at least in some natural way, as CRP. Crrrrppp. See.. Role play.. krr... paaah.. Honestly I'd probably prefer to call them CAR lol.
    The true job abbreviations:

    PAL
    WAR
    DAR
    GUN

    WHI
    SCH
    AST
    SAG

    DRA
    MON
    SAM
    NIN

    BAR
    MAC
    DAN

    BLA
    SUM
    RED
    BLU
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    The true job abbreviations:

    PAL
    WAR
    DAR
    GUN

    WHI
    SCH
    AST
    SAG

    DRA
    MON
    SAM
    NIN

    BAR
    MAC
    DAN

    BLA
    SUM
    RED
    BLU
    NGL the mage ones i dont particularly like... i like that the mage ones are consistent throughout - WHM, BLM, RDM, I only wish they'd figure out how to make BLU more consistent with the other mages - maybe switch up black mage to BKM and Blue mage to BLM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    NGL the mage ones i dont particularly like... i like that the mage ones are consistent throughout - WHM, BLM, RDM, I only wish they'd figure out how to make BLU more consistent with the other mages - maybe switch up black mage to BKM and Blue mage to BLM.
    They could always go with BUM for Blue Mage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    NGL the mage ones i dont particularly like... i like that the mage ones are consistent throughout - WHM, BLM, RDM, I only wish they'd figure out how to make BLU more consistent with the other mages - maybe switch up black mage to BKM and Blue mage to BLM.
    It's because those Job abbreviations (and many others) originated in FFXI and SE just reused the same abbreviations here (specifically; WHM, BLM, RDM, BLU, SMN, SCH, PLD, DRK, WAR, DRG, MNK, NIN, SAM, BRD and DNC abbreviations were all from FFXI originally), probably for consistancy.

    Also some class abbreviations were originally different in FFXIV version 1.0 at launch, but were changed later on (after Yoshi took charge as new producer and director) to the abbreviations we now have in ARR (specifically, GLA was GLD, CNJ was CON and PGL PUG.). I can only speculate why SE changed them, but confusion with other classes or terms or maybe trying to avoid bad jokes about Conjurer being a 'con' might have had something to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    In case it was appearing like I was suggesting SE needs to change job abbreviations I was mostly just describing a personal quirk preference that things have a sound over just letters.

    Like you don't say L A N. You say Lan, like almost a mandarin name- lan kai or something. Often things that don't have a good sounding but potential to make a sound abbreviations / acronyms get shifted a little. Like Why-fy, or lol is often just thought as sounding akin to lul (not L O L, unless you're a valley girl "like oh my god that's so L O L" or trying to be "hip").

    Or at least that's how my brain goes about it. Even if I'm not going to say it to someone at least there is a 'sound' for it in my brain. Not an important issue, at least to me, just one I think is fun to discuss and share.


    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    The true job abbreviations:

    PAL
    WAR
    DAR
    GUN

    WHI
    SCH
    AST
    SAG

    DRA
    MON
    SAM
    NIN

    BAR
    MAC
    DAN

    BLA
    SUM
    RED
    BLU
    Haha, perfect :P

    Like SAM (in the game already) and my brain is like YEE SAMURAI. But MCH.. Mmmmcch.. Ma.....ch... Matcha! If it was MAC at least it would have a strong sound association (might start some jokes on big mac job or whatever, but you'd never ever forget it lol).

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    They could always go with BUM for Blue Mage.
    Changed my mind, it's important for SE to change the abbreviations. We need BUM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Like SAM (in the game already) and my brain is like YEE SAMURAI. But MCH.. Mmmmcch.. Ma.....ch... Matcha! If it was MAC at least it would have a strong sound association (might start some jokes on big mac job or whatever, but you'd never ever forget it lol).
    I disagree - MCH works better as a condensed version of the key sounds - it reads as "mush" to me, perfectly valid as the first part of the full word, but "mack" is not.

    By the same logic, ACN ("a-kun") reads fine for arcanist but ARC is bad for archer, though there isn't much room to do anything else that represents the sound better.

    As for mages, I highly appreciate black mage being an explosive "blam".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I disagree - MCH works better as a condensed version of the key sounds - it reads as "mush" to me, perfectly valid as the first part of the full word, but "mack" is not.

    By the same logic, ACN ("a-kun") reads fine for arcanist but ARC is bad for archer, though there isn't much room to do anything else that represents the sound better.

    As for mages, I highly appreciate black mage being an explosive "blam".
    I disagree your disagree!! lol

    Although to be fair I think neither are perfect. MAC is a clear sound, which I think makes it memorable, but it's not really the sound you'd make for pronoucing machinist. As for MCH I really don't read Mush like you do. I read MM "ch". Even if I read Mush Mush makes me think of.. mush.. and isn't a good sound either lol. Neither 'bring it home' for me, but if it was called MAC you'd be sure I'd never forget what it was referring to.

    I read ACN like A-sin (because it doesn't make a natural pronouncible 'word' unit I see each letter individually first, nothing comes from ACN in word format therefore I read the letters then). A-kun makes me think you're thinking Japanese-like lol. Iscah-kun, I don't read what you read . Neither of those do I feel are great for sound effect, in terms of memorable at least. However Arc is memorable, at least to myself. Arc reactor, arc like angles, the beginning of many words (architecture), etc. Is also the beginning sound for arcanist which would have made it perfect for that job (like SAM -> Samurai or NIN -> Ninja).

    I've been fine with the mages just out of seeing them soooo much in FF games, WHM, BLM, RDM, this is childhood stuff at this point. Although RED would have been so blatant and perfect when you think of it on it's own (unfortunately it breaks the consistent naming scheme for the other jobs so.. that's not ideal).

    Noting again none of this is terribly important (at all lol), and just I have a bias for quick and easy memorable sounds (like CAR instead of CRP, CON was preferable to me over CNJ). Although since I've played this game for so long I usually just type out the names of what I intend if I think the abbreviation isn't that helpful or don't care to remember it (plus they only get three letters to make these work so I'm sure they do the best they can lol).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 03-03-2021 at 03:25 AM.

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