Unpopular Opinion: SE Is Not Obligated To Add New Jobs Every Expansion

[Fawkes]

They gave everyone a heads up that Hrothgar and Viera can only wear certain headgear and would have limitations as such and every week or news update there are people complaining how they are "unfinished". Do you think people will have a better reaction to this? Any perceived issue will be met with "they canceled making a new job for THIS!?!".

The problem there was that they didn't say "Hrothgar and Viera will NEVER be able to wear headgear", and also after they initially announced that most headgear wouldn't work they went and made a bunch more work. They did not properly manage expectations.

[Iscah]

The problem there was that they didn't say "Hrothgar and Viera will NEVER be able to wear headgear", and also after they initially announced that most headgear wouldn't work they went and made a bunch more work. They did not properly manage expectations.

Not exactly. They didn't say "most wouldn't work" then added more; they said nothing would work to begin with, then they put in work so that some things worked.

They haven't made a clear statement to confirm or deny it, but the future compatibility they promised in the initial announcement (when nothing was going to work) may be entirely covered by the extra work they put into glasses and hairpins.

It's always been their statement that hats won't work due to their head design. They're not doing a great job of managing it and it's clear that they don't outright like saying no, but their statements and actions (eg. new gear not being made compatible) indicate that it is intended as a permanent no.

Yes, they promised more hairstyles but they have never explicitly promised hats.

[Fawkes]

Not exactly. They didn't say "most wouldn't work" then added more; they said nothing would work to begin with, then they put in work so that some things worked.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._with_yoshida/

Q: With the two new races' unique heads, how will their headgear work?

A: It won't be displayed, because those face parts wouldn't work in FFXIV's system if headgear were involved. Even Viera ears would've had to be moved down to where Miqo'te ears are. It would've been meaningless if you couldn't go all-out creating characters from these new races, so we decided that helmets wouldn't be necessary. You can equip them, but they won't be displayed. However, things that replace the head are OK, like the snowman head, fat chocobo head, etc. No glasses. Basically, the default is that it won't be shown, and only things that replace the head are ok. We'll make more things compatible over time, bit by bit, but they won't be compatible at launch.

[linayar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._with_yoshida/

So, Yoshida's plan was to make more (not all) things compatible, over time, bit by bit, and definitely not at launch of Shadowbringers. Then the devs decided to work overtime and added 540+ items in one go. I think that probably covers Yoshida's plan, as Iscah mentioned.

[Fawkes]

So, Yoshida's plan was to make more (not all) things compatible, over time, bit by bit, and definitely not at launch of Shadowbringers. Then the devs decided to work overtime and added 540+ items in one go. I think that probably covers Yoshida's plan, as Iscah mentioned.

Not exactly. They didn't say "most wouldn't work" then added more; ; they said nothing would work to begin with

However, things that replace the head are OK, like the snowman head, fat chocobo head, etc.

He said what I said he said.

[linayar]

He said what I said he said.

Sure. I was simply commenting on the article you posted and then referred to this part of Iscah's post outside of the parentheses:

They haven't made a clear statement to confirm or deny it, but the future compatibility they promised in the initial announcement (when nothing was going to work) may be entirely covered by the extra work they put into glasses and hairpins.

The point that I think is more relevant is that not all head gears (in the majority even if not all) would work and that Yoshida only planned to make more (not all, maybe not even the majority) compatible over time, slowly, and not necessarily/explicitly new ones either.