Unpopular Opinion: SE Is Not Obligated To Add New Jobs Every Expansion

[Iscah]

The problem there was that they didn't say "Hrothgar and Viera will NEVER be able to wear headgear", and also after they initially announced that most headgear wouldn't work they went and made a bunch more work. They did not properly manage expectations.

Not exactly. They didn't say "most wouldn't work" then added more; they said nothing would work to begin with, then they put in work so that some things worked.

They haven't made a clear statement to confirm or deny it, but the future compatibility they promised in the initial announcement (when nothing was going to work) may be entirely covered by the extra work they put into glasses and hairpins.

It's always been their statement that hats won't work due to their head design. They're not doing a great job of managing it and it's clear that they don't outright like saying no, but their statements and actions (eg. new gear not being made compatible) indicate that it is intended as a permanent no.

Yes, they promised more hairstyles but they have never explicitly promised hats.

[Jeeqbit]

Of course they don't have to add new jobs. It's one of many things they do to create excitement. Excitement keeps people excited about the game generally, which helps sell the expansions.

[Penthea]

I'm not sure if people will buy the new expansion if there are no new jobs.

I still would but new classes have never been a reason for me to buy an expansion for any game. I'm more interested in the story, new zones, new bosses, etc.

Personally I'm more tempted by new races than new classes, but I still would be fine with an expansion that had neither. Assuming the expansion itself is great of course.

I can see SE reducing it to one new class at some point because we already have a lot as it is.

[Fawkes]

Not exactly. They didn't say "most wouldn't work" then added more; they said nothing would work to begin with, then they put in work so that some things worked.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._with_yoshida/

Q: With the two new races' unique heads, how will their headgear work?

A: It won't be displayed, because those face parts wouldn't work in FFXIV's system if headgear were involved. Even Viera ears would've had to be moved down to where Miqo'te ears are. It would've been meaningless if you couldn't go all-out creating characters from these new races, so we decided that helmets wouldn't be necessary. You can equip them, but they won't be displayed. However, things that replace the head are OK, like the snowman head, fat chocobo head, etc. No glasses. Basically, the default is that it won't be shown, and only things that replace the head are ok. We'll make more things compatible over time, bit by bit, but they won't be compatible at launch.

[linayar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._with_yoshida/

So, Yoshida's plan was to make more (not all) things compatible, over time, bit by bit, and definitely not at launch of Shadowbringers. Then the devs decided to work overtime and added 540+ items in one go. I think that probably covers Yoshida's plan, as Iscah mentioned.

[Fawkes]

So, Yoshida's plan was to make more (not all) things compatible, over time, bit by bit, and definitely not at launch of Shadowbringers. Then the devs decided to work overtime and added 540+ items in one go. I think that probably covers Yoshida's plan, as Iscah mentioned.

Not exactly. They didn't say "most wouldn't work" then added more; ; they said nothing would work to begin with

However, things that replace the head are OK, like the snowman head, fat chocobo head, etc.

He said what I said he said.

[Riardon]

They should stop adding more and more jobs just for the sake of it. Some of the existing jobs became too simplistic and boring and others lost their identity.
Balance is very hard to maintain with that many jobs.
I would rather see more depth to the current ones and allocate resources on adding more content.

[Hazama999]

They have already warned us that while they'd like to, they can't keep adding new jobs forever.
And iirc they implied that in 7.0 or 8.0 they might move to 1 new job per expac.

Would be absolutely fine with this, to be honest. I just hope that whatever new jobs they add are entirely new.

If, at some point, the devs say they can't add new jobs... I'm fine with that, too. Been playing this game for nearly 8 years. I can't bring myself to even begin to muster the energy to get mad at X or Y development decision at this point.

[linayar]

He said what I said he said.

Sure. I was simply commenting on the article you posted and then referred to this part of Iscah's post outside of the parentheses:

They haven't made a clear statement to confirm or deny it, but the future compatibility they promised in the initial announcement (when nothing was going to work) may be entirely covered by the extra work they put into glasses and hairpins.

The point that I think is more relevant is that not all head gears (in the majority even if not all) would work and that Yoshida only planned to make more (not all, maybe not even the majority) compatible over time, slowly, and not necessarily/explicitly new ones either.

[Vahlnir]

Would be absolutely fine with this, to be honest. I just hope that whatever new jobs they add are entirely new.

If, at some point, the devs say they can't add new jobs... I'm fine with that, too. Been playing this game for nearly 8 years. I can't bring myself to even begin to muster the energy to get mad at X or Y development decision at this point.

I played WoW long enough that I saw Blizzard become the very monster they originally hated. When you're as jaded as I am it's pretty easy to call bull on certain decisions. lol Even so, if they decided to stop adding new jobs...I probably wouldn't care too much, so long as they allocated such resources to refine something else.