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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    There is a cooldown timer. You can relocate once per five minutes. It costs millions. No ones doing it as joke.



    Again, relocation is never going away unless the timer as a whole goes away. This is a good thing. Read my passage above about how not being able to relocate can kill an FC.

    If you disagree with relocation, you don't understand what you're asking for.
    Would not go so far as to say no one. I have relocated spam to.mess with an auto clicker.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Would not go so far as to say no one. I have relocated spam to.mess with an auto clicker.
    Could you not just report them? If they're caught by a GM that's going to be far more punishing to them than missing one house could ever be.

    I hate autoclickers as well but they're also victims of the housing situation. Many players are pushed to the point that they feel their only chance for a house is to cheat. The use of autoclicking is just another symptom of the terrible system. I have little pity for those who are caught and punished by SE, they knew the risks they were taking when they chose to cheat, but I recognise that they're there because of a situation SE created.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Could you not just report them? If they're caught by a GM that's going to be far more punishing to them than missing one house could ever be.

    I hate autoclickers as well but they're also victims of the housing situation. Many players are pushed to the point that they feel their only chance for a house is to cheat. The use of autoclicking is just another symptom of the terrible system. I have little pity for those who are caught and punished by SE, they knew the risks they were taking when they chose to cheat, but I recognise that they're there because of a situation SE created.
    If caught. I get why people do it, and because I get why I do not report them.
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  4. #24
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    i doubt gms even bother look at the reports of house clicking bots. I fully support Awha and his methods. Hard to steal houses from legit players with no gil left.
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  5. #25
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Quote Originally Posted by EssJay View Post
    Current state of the residential area's
    I'm going to be bold here, me and my friend lost a house recently because we missed the 45 day deadline by 24 hours and have recently been waiting hours and hours by multiple plots and have seen the majority taken by someone relocating with one button when people without a house have been waiting 2-22 hours on more than one occasion. First of all who? and how? did someone think this was a fair decision to make? it encourages trolls who just relocate to waste people's time not only that but we all pay to play this game and I think it's a joke that you have your community waiting and spamming a button to buy a plot for 2-22 hours... a day! In my opinion it should be a first come first served basis and not have someone who waited 1 hour get the plot over someone who's waited 20 hours you're basically slapping your community in the face by doing this tell me I'm wrong.
    Changes I want to see:
    1. relocating should be abolished, if you have a house you should have to wait like everyone else and you should have to demolish your house to even be able to buy another.
    2. 22 hours is far too long to have people waiting for a plot especially if they wait 22 hours and miss out.
    3. I think it should be a first come first served basis.
    4. you should not be able to relocate from a small to another small and only from a small to a medium or medium to a large (if point 1 doesn't happen).
    5. there should be a minimum wait time for the time you demolish your house to be able to buy another say 24 hours, 1 week or even 1 month (to encourage people to be sure if they're buying a house they should stick with that house and be happy because you're lucky enough to have one on such a busy server).
    1. Relocating is working as intended, you wont lose a plot in game as the place relocated from becomes available.
    2. I think it should be more or like a 72 hour waiting system, with a 3 clicks per day ratio per plot, it is better, and it neutralizes botting.
    3. First come first serve, it used to be like that, it is not like that anymore as heavy RMT was involved and real estate agents and such in game, the times came on, so you could not just sell the plot directly to someone who had highest bid.
    4. Relocation no matter size should not matter all, and would just create even more massive camping whenever a large or medium comes available + much more griefing or feeling like it, if someone is able to relocate into on.
    5. if you demolish your house, you need to wait or click day and night like everyone else, elsewhere, relocation however, put a 8 hour time on relocating or something, so you can just relocate at once to grief players, or to use their auto clicking bots to empty your bank account with low lvl items at millions, by using a retainer.
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  6. #26
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    More Wards

    The only option is more wards. Period. And not in just Ishgard (because personally I think it is the ugliest of the 5). Instanced housing just separates the community between 'haves' and 'have-nots'. As long as a real plot exists, I don't want anything else.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiproberts View Post
    The only option is more wards
    They know. If you remember the August 2020 announcement ahead of Octobers new wards, se said essentially "Wards require physical servers. Due to covid, we cannot deliver them. We will optimize all existing server space, and add all the wards we can."
    So it's very likely that wards 25-30 or at least 25-27 will be released not long after travel restrictions ease.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    They know. If you remember the August 2020 announcement ahead of Octobers new wards, se said essentially "Wards require physical servers. Due to covid, we cannot deliver them. We will optimize all existing server space, and add all the wards we can."
    So it's very likely that wards 25-30 or at least 25-27 will be released not long after travel restrictions ease.
    They better open all the plots for purchase this time. Giving transfers and FC's first priority is the dumbest thing.
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  9. #29
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiproberts View Post
    They better open all the plots for purchase this time. Giving transfers and FC's first priority is the dumbest thing.
    Except it's not. There's FC specific content that's gated by house ownership. FCs should have priority so they can access that content.

    Not having the personal moratorium created a mess in 5.35. Houses were gone before most NA players had gotten up for the day. There were a few dozen plots left that were now on a purchase timer because players had bought the house then immediately relocated. A lot of FCs got locked out of a chance to get a house.

    What SE does need to change is the length of the personal moratorium. We get plenty of advance warning that the new wards are being added so FCs can be prepared to buy at release. Have the moratorium last one week instead of having 6-8 weeks of half empty wards because all the FCs who wanted a house already got theirs and the additional delay only serves those players making shell FCs to get more houses for personal use.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Except it's not. There's FC specific content that's gated by house ownership. FCs should have priority so they can access that content.
    They don't need weeks which does nothing but spawn abuse. Personally with new ward additions I don't think they should get any priority. If they get one a day head start at the most. And maybe just maybe they need to remove the FC gated stuff and give it to everyone. Airships and Subs need to go to GC. Those perks generally benefit the leadership and not the general membership anyway.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 03-05-2021 at 12:53 AM.

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