This has now become beyond ridiculous!

[Penthea]

The day someone makes a mod on their character visible to me without me installing any mods is the day I'll believe you.

This is literally impossible given how mods like this work. They don't send information to the server which means other players can't see the effects. Due to these mods being against the ToS they don't send information to the server so that SE isn't alerted to their use. And even if they did send information to the server if your gaming rig doesn't have the necessary file info about the modded piece on display locally stored then you still won't be able to see it.

The point is that if an amateur can create a mod in which viera can wear hats, then a team of professionals with access to top-end equipment and monetary funding should be able to as well. Sure changing the game to facilitate viera hats is more difficult than a mod some rando makes...but then that's where the whole "they're qualified professionals with the necessary equipment and staff" comes in.

It never has been about SE being unable to do something. It's always been about what SE prioritise. It just sucks that viera and hrothgar are so far down the list that now we can't even look forward to in game events anymore given the most recent one had the only piece of gear that we can't use as the sole glam reward. It's like we don't exist.

[Doozer]

This is literally impossible given how mods like this work. They don't send information to the server which means other players can't see the effects. Due to these mods being against the ToS they don't send information to the server so that SE isn't alerted to their use. And even if they did send information to the server if your gaming rig doesn't have the necessary file info about the modded piece on display locally stored then you still won't be able to see it.

The point is that if an amateur can create a mod in which viera can wear hats, then a team of professionals with access to top-end equipment and monetary funding should be able to as well. Sure changing the game to facilitate viera hats is more difficult than a mod some rando makes...but then that's where the whole "they're qualified professionals with the necessary equipment and staff" comes in.

It never has been about SE being unable to do something. It's always been about what SE prioritise. It just sucks that viera and hrothgar are so far down the list that now we can't even look forward to in game events anymore given the most recent one had the only piece of gear that we can't use as the sole glam reward. It's like we don't exist.

My point was, a person making a mod that's client-side is not the same thing as it being implemented in-game. Not sure what was necessary to argue about that statement.

[Penthea]

My point was, a person making a mod that's client-side is not the same thing as it being implemented in-game. Not sure what was necessary to argue about that statement.

I even agreed with that statement and provided a reason as to why it's noteworthy, given you seem to think it's not this is why the debate sparked.

[Doozer]

I even agreed with that statement and provided a reason as to why it's noteworthy, given you seem to think it's not this is why the debate sparked.

What debate. I was replying to a person on page 14 about player-made mods. I wasn't debating anything.

[Penthea]

What debate. I was replying to a person on page 14 about player-made mods. I wasn't debating anything.

You're the one who said something about an argument first...I give up. Not worth my time wasting my post count on someone this pedantic.

[Jandor]

Does it show for everyone or just those with the mods on (aka client-side)? There's a difference between showing something to yourself and making it work from their end. To act like a user-end mod is the same as making something work in-game is a joke. Just saying. The day someone makes a mod on their character visible to me without me installing any mods is the day I'll believe you.

Can't put hats on Viera because server limitations, sorry guys.

[Doozer]

Can't put hats on Viera because server limitations, sorry guys.

Didn't say that.

You're the one who said something about an argument first...I give up. Not worth my time wasting my post count on someone this pedantic.

Yeah, this is what I said about arguments:

Not sure what was necessary to argue about that statement.

Funny, isn't it.