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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    But you're not even advocating for his specific program to go to onto console. Why does my disability only matter if I'm a PC player?

    ADHD's a real troublesome thing, my attention constantly shifting around making it impossible to stay at a house. Yet as a console player, I don't get access to this accessibility function you keep arguing for me. Why is it only fair for people who play on PC to have this assistance, and not console players?

    Surely you can at the very least petition your miqo overlord to assist me on a console, right? If it's not even an argument, should be pretty easy, right? Or does my disability also not count because it's a mental one, not a physical one, like the examples you've shown yourself?
    hmmmm it's hard for me to read this in a non-bad faith way like you're trying to bait me into something, I dunno. Just a feeling i get.

    So let's see, mental disabilities are real and as valid as physical ones.

    Dunno what you mean by my miqo overlord - literally no clue to what this refers.

    It seems that what you're asking for is based on a misinterpretation of what I've been saying, so, to briefly go over what I've been saying:

    - the housing system can be circumvented in a number of manners (which is a problem, and they should change the housing system). Let's call people who do this via any method group A
    - one of the ways to do so is to use software which can have valid utility for legitimate means for some subset of players. Let's call this group B
    - that some people would use that software to circumvent a game system is not a reason to disallow for players who need it for legitimate concerns. Or in other words, Group A's use of some software for unintended purposes shouldn't impact group B's ability to play and enjoy the game.

    And what it kind of sounds like you're saying is that as someone in Group B, you'd like the software to engage in the activities of Group A. And like, I'm not so sure that's a good idea. I'm not so sure it's a great idea for anyone to be in group A - I think the system should change so Group A doesn't do what they do, via whatever method they choose.

    To the extent that software based solutions could help you play with ADHD, in terms of repetition a quick google did find quite a number of suggestions for how to set up automated input, so if there were particular game systems you struggled to use as intended, while at your device playing the game, maybe looking around out there would be useful for you.

    And probably because, again, this feels like bait, in that it just doesn't feel like you're looking for legitimate suggestions or a real conversation about this, instead of some kind of gotcha moment, that's probably all I'm going to say about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    . Gotta be persistent, or just be in the right place at the right time. It's hard for some to really understand that I guess unless they've seen it first hand.
    Nothing about it has to be the way it is. Humans made it. Humans can change it to. Also I assume that miqo'te didn't get lucky, they probably relocated, which apparently bypasses the timer. And since a relocated plot, as I understand it, opens for use immediately, they probably had someone at their original to pick it up. Why would someone either be persistent or be in the right place at the right time when you can just use the powers of nepotism instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtlesAWD View Post
    Nothing about it has to be the way it is. Humans made it. Humans can change it to. Also I assume that miqo'te didn't get lucky, they probably relocated, which apparently bypasses the timer. And since a relocated plot, as I understand it, opens for use immediately, they probably had someone at their original to pick it up. Why would someone either be persistent or be in the right place at the right time when you can just use the powers of nepotism instead?
    You must have missed the part where I never defended the system as is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    You must have missed the part where I never defended the system as is.
    Naw, they just have a hard time understanding that statements are normally read, understood, and THEN responded to, rather than read with the explicit intent TO respond to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtlesAWD View Post
    hmmmm it's hard for me to read this in a non-bad faith way like you're trying to bait me into something, I dunno. Just a feeling i get.
    That's probably because the truth is it's actually a friend of mine on PS4 who's got the ADHD, and not myself.

    And just to clarify maybe a bit more since it sounds like you're actually misunderstanding how the program used here even works, let me explain.

    The autoclicker is designed in a way where the game 100% performs actions on its own based on what you told the program to do. Once you start it up and have it going, you are 100% incapable of doing anything yourself. You mention over and over again assistance, when the issue that's occurring here isn't assistance, because it doesn't even LET you play while it's active. Hell, you can't use your device at all while it's active, or the bot will stop functioning entirely properly. I don't see how this is capable of helping somebody properly who has disabilities, as I'd assume most people who're truly trying to push for something like that would still want to be playing the game.
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