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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtlesAWD View Post
    ...or this thread's mass interpretation of the rule, is bad based on... I'm not sure what, to be honest.
    It's against the ToS. It's against the ToS because it provides an unfair advantage. It's against the ToS because it provides an unfair advantage because it allows easy, absentee purchasing of plots over other players including all console players. It's spelt out for you. We're not just against bots because dems da rules.

    Console players can have disabilities as well seeming as you keep gravitating to disabilities as your justification. Why should a PC player with a disability have an advantage over a console player with a disability?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    IYou agreed to their rules when you made your account. Follow them or accept the consequences.
    Yeah I dunno, it looks like they didn't ban OP, I guess I'm not overly worried they'll ban me for saying that OP's method isn't fundamentally different from other methods which people should also not use - and that there should be a better system to disincentivize their use.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMagic View Post
    Oh yes, because THAT'S how people use these bots including the OP.

    You forgot to mention sleep clicking. It's a serious medical problem. I was clearly talking about heading to work etc. but if you want to do gardening with a wireless mouse in one hand, kudos.
    I could tape a button down and go to work. Do you require an exhaustive list of every possible activity someone could engage in with a button taped down before you're ready to move on, or do you want to address whether there's a fundamental difference between using hardware and software for input? Do you consider a "bot" something that is only software based? I have a hard time believing you can rationalize that position.

    The classical definition of a bot is a physical machine that automates away labor. A taped down button is as sophisticated a "bot" as a program that interacts with my mouse to click a specific location on my screen. That ultimately can be just as game client agnostic, just as ripe for other players to take advantage of in the same way, and have just as much of an impact on the play experience of other people in-game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    Report anyone condoning or defending the use of third party software. This is botting. Don't try to negotiate with posters trying to 'rationalize' cheating just because the current housing situation isn't good. You not being able to get a plot doesn't mean you can just break the rules to acquire one.
    Can't stress this enough, you should really read the thread.


    Quote Originally Posted by MrMagic View Post
    It's against the ToS. It's against the ToS because it provides an unfair advantage. It's against the ToS because it provides an unfair advantage because it allows easy, absentee purchasing of plots over other players including all console players. It's spelt out for you. We're not just against bots because dems da rules.

    Console players can have disabilities as well seeming as you keep gravitating to disabilities as your justification. Why should a PC player with a disability have an advantage over a console player with a disability?
    I mean... pc players shouldn't have an advantage, that's... literally my point. That's what I've been saying. The type of tools people need in order to play the game should be allowed. That includes consoles as well. And the tools able-bodied gamers use to play the game can likewise be used to the same ends, so the issue would be player incentive to do it by any method, not the specific method chosen to do so. I'm not sure where the disconnect here is coming from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtlesAWD View Post
    Yeah I dunno, it looks like they didn't ban OP,
    Actually you make a fair point here.

    You can go onto Square official locations, proudly admit to cheating, and not suffer any punishment for it.

    And people think I'm just wearing a tin foil hat for saying Square literally doesn't ban bots because $$$$$$
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    Yes it's clear I've lost you, but that's fine. As long as I'm in the zoo I can still holler at the animals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurtlesAWD View Post
    Yeah I dunno, it looks like they didn't ban OP, I guess I'm not overly worried they'll ban me for saying that OP's method isn't fundamentally different from other methods which people should also not use - and that there should be a better system to disincentivize their use.
    What rock have you been under that you have never heard of a ban wave? And banning is not the only punishment tool they have. Also not going to address your other points. You lost me when you spun my point into saying we should add bots to consoles. I'm pretty sure it's a joke at this point.
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