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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Zodiark only exists because the source of the Sound existed though, so I don't see how that makes sense. Fandaniel would have been tempered before Zodiark was even summoned.
    Order of existence doesn't matter. In Fandaniel's case exposure is what would matter. And since he was in the Convocation in Amaurot, the last place the sound hit, and since Azem was the only member to leave often, he was most likely exposed to Zodiark before the Sound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    Order of existence doesn't matter. In Fandaniel's case exposure is what would matter. And since he was in the Convocation in Amaurot, the last place the sound hit, and since Azem was the only member to leave often, he was most likely exposed to Zodiark before the Sound.
    This brings to mind a thought...when did Fandaniel become Fandaniel? Was it before the Sound had started occurring, or after? If after...there's a chance he might have been exposed to the sound first.
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    In regards to Fandaniel's madness, assuming that it's a legitimate desire to destroy everything, it could simply have come about as an evolution of his character over time. He may share the Ascians' belief that mortals are inferior beings, barely qualifying as life, and ALSO have come to the conclusion that the remaining Ascians, both Sundered and not have become so depraved and corrupt that they, too, are no longer deserving of salvation.

    It doesn't have to be something he inherited from the original Fandaniel. He may simply have changed over twelve thousand years (or however long it's been since he was raised to be an Ascian). He's accepted that the Ancients' time is done. Their world is dead and gone. But that doesn't mean he's going to hand everything over to the worms that infest their world's corpse now - no, the best way to memorialize the past is with a world-sized tomestone...

    I also tend to think that the memory stones did not so much "rewrite" the memories of the raised Ascians so much as it JOGGED them. Whoever Fandaniel was before he was raised up is still there, but he also has access to the memories contained within his soul fragment. In the case of most Ascians, this is enough to get them to side with the Ascians' goals - but in Fandaniel's case, he merely decided to play along (or, perhaps, was legitimately on board at first, but changed his mind later).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    In regards to Fandaniel's madness, assuming that it's a legitimate desire to destroy everything, it could simply have come about as an evolution of his character over time. He may share the Ascians' belief that mortals are inferior beings, barely qualifying as life, and ALSO have come to the conclusion that the remaining Ascians, both Sundered and not have become so depraved and corrupt that they, too, are no longer deserving of salvation.

    It doesn't have to be something he inherited from the original Fandaniel. He may simply have changed over twelve thousand years (or however long it's been since he was raised to be an Ascian). He's accepted that the Ancients' time is done. Their world is dead and gone. But that doesn't mean he's going to hand everything over to the worms that infest their world's corpse now - no, the best way to memorialize the past is with a world-sized tomestone...

    I also tend to think that the memory stones did not so much "rewrite" the memories of the raised Ascians so much as it JOGGED them. Whoever Fandaniel was before he was raised up is still there, but he also has access to the memories contained within his soul fragment. In the case of most Ascians, this is enough to get them to side with the Ascians' goals - but in Fandaniel's case, he merely decided to play along (or, perhaps, was legitimately on board at first, but changed his mind later).
    I have a feeling Fandaniel was never on board with their goals from the start but was forced to take part in it with Elidibus holding the leash.

    The final dialogue in 5.3 about a beast being released from its leash was not about Zenos but was about Fandaniel finally free from his leash to do whatever he wanted and he is meant to be far worse than Zenos when it comes to chaos because of his goal to destroy the world. Zenos only interests was to relive the battle he desired with the WoL so the destruction he caused was very little compared to what Fandaniel creates since Fandaniel has a enjoyment in causing destruction and chaos while seeking his own goals.

    Zenos is already a wild beast but he was one who was never leashed but allowed to go free and cause as much destruction he want. Fandaniel is a beast who was chained by the unsundered Ascians to go along with their plan and to keep him in check from causing too much destruction. With the leash now gone, there is nothing stopping him from going wild.
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    So, new interview with Yoshi-P.

    Past expansions have taken the cast of FFXIV to different, visually striking regions. For example, Heavensward took us to Ishgard, where marvelous, towering spires faithfully imitated Gothic French designs. Stormblood took us to Ala Mhigo, an Eorzean city-state conquered two decades prior to the game, and Doma, a Far Eastern nation. Shadowbringers focused less on displaying a specific set of cultures and more on “subversion” — introducing locations in an alternate reality that mirrored familiar settings from The Source (the world where FFXIV takes place).

    Yoshida says Endwalker will be similar. Rather than taking direct inspiration from the real world, its traversable locations have been created “to fill in the pieces of the puzzle, so to speak, and create a full picture for this story arc.” When comparing the locations to those in previews expansions, Yoshida explained “this might be the most varied adventure. We hope our players are excited to explore these new areas.”
    So with Thavnair, the Moon, and Garlemald confirmed as zones, I'm intrigued with the whole "fill in pieces of the puzzle" part.

    (Also technically speaking Thavnair does have some real world influence, but mostly of a Fantasy Arabia/India, kinda thing, so side-stepping the fact that Arabic Cultures are kind of different amongst themselves)
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    That gives more credence to Sharlayan being the "main" city in regards to places we hear a lot of but never been to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank_Hotspur View Post
    That gives more credence to Sharlayan being the "main" city in regards to places we hear a lot of but never been to.
    It also gives water to the theory that none of the 6 zones will be in the same place. Meaning we're probably looking at Sharlayan, Thavnair, Garlemald, the Moon, and 2 other locations. Now the question is what the other two places will be? It could be Meracydia and mystery locale, it could be the New World and The Core of the planet, we have no clue at this point and the suspense is killing me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It also gives water to the theory that none of the 6 zones will be in the same place. Meaning we're probably looking at Sharlayan, Thavnair, Garlemald, the Moon, and 2 other locations. Now the question is what the other two places will be? It could be Meracydia and mystery locale, it could be the New World and The Core of the planet, we have no clue at this point and the suspense is killing me.
    Underground and Meracydia got my vote!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    Underground and Meracydia got my vote!
    Meracydia is an entire continent, i would think they would save that for its own expansion, maybe more of the locations we have heard about in Islabard though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank_Hotspur View Post
    That gives more credence to Sharlayan being the "main" city in regards to places we hear a lot of but never been to.
    I have long held on to the belief that 6.0 would take us to Sharlyan, Garlemald, and finally the moon, since Garleamld and the moon are already confirmed that just leaves Sharlyan. Personally I feel if this is the season 1 finale then it has to be included, otherwise it will not feel complete.
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