This has now become beyond ridiculous!

[BunniEclair]

FIFY: "....There's a global pandemic! This thread REEKS of entitlement!" - people who play races that got seven new hairstyles in ShB, most of which came during the pandemic.

I can't understand why people expect us to be happy when SE keep throwing new head options at the other races while we sit at the sidelines feeling invisible. The only logical conclusion I can come up with is some people enjoy feeling superior by saying we're being childish for wanting even a taste of the attention they're getting.

Why couldn't they get three or four hairstyles and we get two or three? Why did they get to have ALL of the new hairstyles while we got nothing? We pay the same sub. This is not fair.

Let’s not forget that they responded almost immediately to people crying about not getting the rainmaker hair this year by assuring them they were going to make it available to obtain again via mogstation. Now every time there’s a mogstation update without it people get vocally mad about it on here and social media.

We get nothing for going on two years and complain: “How dare you! The devs gave you glasses! God, you’re so ungrateful!”

Everyone else gets denied one (1) hair: “WHAT THE HECK WHERE’S MY PONYTAIL SE!!!!??? THIS ISN’T FAIR!!!! I DIDN’T PLAY BACK THEN!!!!”


Like????

The only logical conclusion I can make in addition to yours is that everyone knows that if they give viera/hroth more cute hairstyles and some compatible hats that we will become unstoppable. However, every day my lust for power grows. Give us the hair, cowards.

[BlitzAceRush]

I mean I'm happy and I also don't find it unfair, I was promised something at some point, unless the game is shutting down shortly they've still time to fufil that promise, I was also told I wouldn't get what all the other races get and I wouldn't want the people who enjoy all the older races to get less just so I can get something, I knew full well what I signed up for and was and am fine with it.

Also stop making this an "Us vs Them" the other older races should not get less so we can get something, it's pretty clear adding another race put them at the limit and they said it meant we'd get less or not much, those of us either need to accept that or not use them. We're not trapped as Viera or Hroth, if we don't like the limitations we are free to not be them, but it should not cost the other races.

There's a thread screaming that they should have cut Bozja to save Ultimate, one piece of content that some enjoy should not be sacrificed for another, just like the other races shouldn't get less just because of us, now you can argue if they should have released them at all if those were the choices they were forced to make.

Personally, I've never been happier since becoming a Viera, before they were added I kept fantasiaing all over the place, never satisfied, I've not even changed my hair or visited the Aesthetician since 5.0, so I fine with their current state, I collect the rewards from events on the off chance I might be able to wear them one day, but if nothing changes, I'm happy.

Of course though I'm not saying people need to like the situation or can't wish we got more stuff, but we were warned and they gave no timeline as to when we'd get stuff.

[BunniEclair]

Snip.

That’s great! I’m happy you’re enjoying viera. I am also enjoying viera, aside from the head situation, and haven’t used a fantasia since they were released. And sure, I could shell out *again* to race change, but I don’t want to. This doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to not like how they’ve handled this one situation so far. I love CLL, it’s interesting and different content, but the rewards were lackluster and weren’t great for longevity. Turns out a lot of other people also didn’t like it, so they’ve adjusted it several times. That is what I would like to see with viera and hrothgar. You can criticize something and still enjoy it. That is what we are doing here. We are not saying the new races are a total flop. If I really thought that, I wouldn’t waste my breath.

It actually is an Us vs Them where dev time is concerned. It has been made abundantly clear that they cannot work on the old and the new simultaneously. They have thus far chosen to prioritize the old races over making any time at all for the new ones. They added these races, and they should have adjusted their schedule and workflow to accommodate them. I will not budge on this. There is no reason that viera and hrothgar should not be taken into consideration for cosmetics.

They gave us no timeline, you’re right. However, I hardly think that warrants a free pass to continue blatantly prioritizing everyone else over us for the entire expansion and not have any negative feedback. At this point it’s simply negligence.

Ultimately, this is a small part of my overall positive experience in game. Am I going to quit over it? No. However, I do intend to keep voicing my desire for them to consider us moving forward, and to give us updates sooner than later. (And tbh these threads are kinda cathartic in the meantime.)

[Britha]

I've given up on headgear but the fact that we're going on 2 years without a single new hairstyle is ridiculous and insulting, especially since Yoshida told us to "be patient" but I think we've been very patient. New hairstyles constantly come out as rewards yet it's gutting to know Viera and Hrothgar won't find any use for them. It's time they addressed this properly I think.

Also people really need to stop calling us "entitled" for asking for things other players take for granted. Feeling like a second-class citizen in a game we pay for as well is an awful feeling.

[BlitzAceRush]

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That's fine, never said you or anyone shouldn't I would be happy to get more, but I know what I signed up for.
Though I still disagree it's an us vs them, to me that would only apply if they said we'd all be treated equally and then they prioritised the older races over the new, they made it clear we'd get less and not what the others would get, which is exactly what is happening. They at no point promised they'd shift resources from the older races to us and those who have no interest in the newer races shouldn't be punished for our inclusion, are we being punished? In a way you could see it like that, but it was a "punishment" we agreed to when we made the choice to use them.

I'm also not saying them not giving a timeline is a "free pass" simply we ask them to inform us, they were honest, until they have something to add, there's nothing they can really say, people often mock the devs for saying things like "Please look forward to it" or "We'll look into it." But if they've no immediate updates, that's all they could say, so there's no winning for them in that sense. Nothing new to report? "Why are they ignoring us?!" Assure people they're still working on it? "PlEaSe LoOk FoRwArD tO iT That's all you ever say!"

Either way like I said I'll happily join in with "if we can could we get more please?" crowd, even if I might not use any of it, the only hat I'd want is Matoya's back, but for those that care I'd welcome many and more, we should keep the light on that if/when they can people want more though I'd say Hroth's problems with needing to fant to change hair should be top priority.
But lacing our request with venom, making demands and acting like we didn't all know we were going into this with getting less, or wanting to take stuff away from others to suite our own desires, that I can't agree with.

[Godzillaxpowerrangers]

A small part of me thinks egis will get them glam options before viera and hrathgar get new hairs. There are some hats I miss but ive been using eye patchs in there place. Glasses look off on my hrathgar.

[Divinemights]

Dear Karen and Kevin,

When you decides to choose Hrothgar and Viera, you already acknowledge that you have accepted the term that you will not be able to access to any in game relate to the Head of your character. They ask the community if it is ok and community accepted it. They release when it is not ready out of gesture.

Especially Veira, you have to realize that you are the only race with most long hair style when other races are mostly short hair (even with new hairs)

[BunniEclair]

snip snip.

Did we know what we were getting into *exactly* though? I certainly didn’t expect “slower updates” to mean “maybe next expansion who knows?” I also didn’t think “limited hair” meant “you get a few and that’s it”. Or that it meant Hrothgar would have to pay $10 to change between their two. I had no reason to believe they wouldn’t make any effort at all to include us in entire event rewards, especially back to back. That we wouldn’t even get one of the only two unique racial gears in the game. Maybe that’s my own fault for being overly optimistic, but judging from the frequency of the complaints it doesn’t look like I was in the minority there.

I am not saying I want the other races to go without until I am satiated. I am saying if they have to balance the races by taking turns working on them until there is less of a disparity then they should. The old races have tons of hair and get tons of new headgear every patch. They will live if they have to wait a little bit for a new hairstyle. Excuse me if my sympathy is limited in that department.

[BunniEclair]

Especially Veira, you have to realize that you are the only race with most long hair style when other races are mostly short hair (even with new hairs)

And we only have 1 actually short hair. What’s your point?

[SturmChurro]

Especially Veira, you have to realize that you are the only race with most long hair style when other races are mostly short hair (even with new hairs)

I just don't think that is true. I went and counted how many "long styles" I had, I get an extra as au ra, and (modern aesthetics included) I can safely say everyone else gets between 6-8 unique long(er) hairstyles. Viera get effectively half that, unless you include a couple twirls on the bangs as a unique hair - if you do (for some reason) they get about equivalent.