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  1. #1631
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qurho View Post
    Oh, my bad. I was thinking more in terms of getting my spine cracked like a glowstick.

    If we're showing off artistic interpretations again, I'm a fan of this korean artist's take on female hroth: monk | scholar | both. (Linked directly, to respect the 'no re-upload' on their page.)

    I'm well aware the monk's build isn't viable in FF14 at all, but a girl can at least hope they look somewhat solid.
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  2. #1632
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qurho View Post

    If we're showing off artistic interpretations again, I'm a fan of this korean artist's take on female hroth: monk | scholar | both. (Linked directly, to respect the 'no re-upload' on their page.)

    I'm well aware the monk's build isn't viable in FF14 at all, but a girl can at least hope they look somewhat solid.
    I adore the heck out of that artstyle, and think they look fantastic.
    The monk is abit too bulky and would look weird in FFXIV...but I still stand it to the moon and back <3

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    Believe it or not, femininity isn't only defined by looking like a skinny anime girl who can barely lift a leaf.

    I, for one, welcome the arrival of big, muscle ladies.
    +1
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  3. #1633
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Are these more references to au ra? Which I have never personally brought up first in here? It's getting old, can we talk about female hrothgar?

    I know for sure femininity isn't defined as being a 7 foot tall muscled she-hulk. That's for sure.
    So...is it just not ok to talk about or reference Au-Ra? Like I get that you like them and play one, but why is it ok to put down FemRoe so hard but anything against the Au-Ra isn't ok and you get super defensive?
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  4. #1634
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    So...is it just not ok to talk about or reference Au-Ra? Like I get that you like them and play one, but why is it ok to put down FemRoe so hard but anything against the Au-Ra isn't ok and you get super defensive?
    I brought up au ra in one post - complimenting another person's prior choices. I am talking about female roe in the female hrothgar thread, because female roe was used as a comparative basis in SE's own artwork. Not only that the Queen of Bozja - who is a roe - replaced a female hrothgar. So, there is actually a relevance in discussing ROE, there is no relevance in discussing au ra in this thread. Since that artwork also depicted female hrothgar being at comparable height to roe, with probably feline features. So, neither miqo'te 2.0, or au ra are applicable, in my opinion.

    I am not "putting down" roe* either. I am saying how it is. Simple as that. Some people like that aesthetic, I get that, but as I have said numerous times, I don't think it should be used as a basis for female hrothgar. Seemingly the references to female au ra, have been since I've been posting, and to me, they are jabs at my player avatar. Just like when I've been a female miqo'te in the past, because apparently, I cannot have diverse opinions, if I am playing either race. I have said for years, that I have wanted female hrothgar to be like male hrothgar, a beast race. Fierce, tough, athletic, proud. Closer to female highlander, and similar height as viera. Not hunched.
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    If they make female horthgar, please do not make them hunched, and if they do make it an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    If they make female horthgar, please do not make them hunched, and if they do make it an option.
    I am surprised with how WoW players have been kicking and screaming for the option NOT to be hunched over for a literal decade SE decided to do that to Hrothgar. Done so dirty..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qurho View Post
    Oh, my bad. I was thinking more in terms of getting my spine cracked like a glowstick.

    If we're showing off artistic interpretations again, I'm a fan of this korean artist's take on female hroth: monk | scholar | both. (Linked directly, to respect the 'no re-upload' on their page.)

    I'm well aware the monk's build isn't viable in FF14 at all, but a girl can at least hope they look somewhat solid.
    Holy hell I love all 3! ♥♥♥

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    If they make female horthgar, please do not make them hunched, and if they do make it an option.

    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    I am surprised with how WoW players have been kicking and screaming for the option NOT to be hunched over for a literal decade SE decided to do that to Hrothgar. Done so dirty..
    Like this is is the best game to do this with because of the in-built Cpose. Ju9st give us half of the idles hunched and half not hunched and we're groovy.
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  8. #1638
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    If they make female horthgar, please do not make them hunched, and if they do make it an option.
    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    I am surprised with how WoW players have been kicking and screaming for the option NOT to be hunched over for a literal decade SE decided to do that to Hrothgar. Done so dirty..
    Yeah... I can understand the intent in making them seem more 'beastly', but the hrothgar straighten up for a lot of shared emotes and animations anyway. It seems like a bit of needless extra work to adjust for the hunch.
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  9. #1639
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I brought up au ra in one post - complimenting another person's prior choices. I am talking about female roe in the female hrothgar thread, because female roe was used as a comparative basis in SE's own artwork. Not only that the Queen of Bozja - who is a roe - replaced a female hrothgar. So, there is actually a relevance in discussing ROE, there is no relevance in discussing au ra in this thread. Since that artwork also depicted female hrothgar being at comparable height to roe, with probably feline features. So, neither miqo'te 2.0, or au ra are applicable, in my opinion.

    I am not "putting down" roe* either. I am saying how it is. Simple as that. Some people like that aesthetic, I get that, but as I have said numerous times, I don't think it should be used as a basis for female hrothgar. Seemingly the references to female au ra, have been since I've been posting, and to me, they are jabs at my player avatar. Just like when I've been a female miqo'te in the past, because apparently, I cannot have diverse opinions, if I am playing either race. I have said for years, that I have wanted female hrothgar to be like male hrothgar, a beast race. Fierce, tough, athletic, proud. Closer to female highlander, and similar height as viera. Not hunched.
    You kinda are Putting Down FemRoes if your gonna sit there and say female Roe are closer to the male sex than female. Then the "Im saying how it is" defense is a weak shield to hide behind. I support that you have a diverse opinion, not once I have tried to dismiss or put you down for it, unless you think disagreement is shutting one down.

    And, So literally its just not allowed for Au Ra to be mentioned for any reason then? You just think we are taking jabs at you, Even if they are brought up in a conversation or post from anybody else that people just hope that we don't see a Male to Female difference like the Au Ra have to be applied to the Hrothgar? Or nobody can talk about Miqote, even though they only came up because people don't want the Hrothgar Females to have soft human faces and basically just become Miqote 2.0?
    Are people just not allowed to have these conversations because you assume they are about you?
    Like..really?
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  10. #1640
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    You kinda are Putting Down FemRoes if your gonna sit there and say female Roe are closer to the male sex than female. Then the "Im saying how it is" defense is a weak shield to hide behind. I support that you have a diverse opinion, not once I have tried to dismiss or put you down for it, unless you think disagreement is shutting one down.

    And, So literally its just not allowed for Au Ra to be mentioned for any reason then? You just think we are taking jabs at you, Even if they are brought up in a conversation or post from anybody else that people just hope that we don't see a Male to Female difference like the Au Ra have to be applied to the Hrothgar? Or nobody can talk about Miqote, even though they only came up because people don't want the Hrothgar Females to have soft human faces and basically just become Miqote 2.0?
    Are people just not allowed to have these conversations because you assume they are about you?
    Like..really?
    I am not putting down femroe. I stated they look like men, are closer to males, you can take that as a put down or a compliment. It's stating a fact. That's it.

    When au ra is mentioned in direct reply to me (as in quoting), and I haven't brought up au ra, yeah.. I am pretty sure it's in reference to me, frankly. Like.. really?
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