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  1. #51
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    Payadopa's Avatar
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'm envious. I wish I could get excited about the hairstyles that have been added to the game lately but...they're just not to my tastes at all.
    At least you could use it if you wanted to.
    (3)

  2. #52
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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Mute Shellback
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    It was reading this thread that I learned there's even a mount that drops.
    The rates are beyond abyssmal, they're inexcusable.

    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    Seems like people are forgetting Gyr Abanian Plait. (HoH in which you had to run Silver shack floors and pray for the chest to give you the action needed to reveal accursed horde shacks and then pray that you could get the hair to drop from these RNG shacks. Yes, I've opened countless Silver Shacks over the years, and I've never seen Gyr Abanian Plait drop)

    They treat hair as an incentive to run content, as a reward, and they have never been against locking it behind grindy RNG. The reason this hair is likely 20mil on the MB right now is because most people are so far behind in Bozja that they can't even do DR and have to catch up now that the devs have made it clear they're not going to give you the shiny for just doing brain-dead non Bozja content.
    HoH was better designed as alternative leveling than bozja. All you had to do was clear PotD up to what, floor 50? 100?
    Then once you're in, just kill enough mobs to open the gate to the next floor. No large open areas to explore, no FATEs to farm, just "kill, move on, kill, move on" til you cleared 10 floors and beat the boss.
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  3. #53
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    Aries Helle
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    Yeah I'm on run 36 and got the Gabriel Mount, but I want the hair. I am having a hard time not getting salty. But I do not find running DR endlessly wondering if today will be the day very unenjoyable.

    Even the massive grind for the relic was okay you know, because the end was in sight, every time you did there was a result you could work towards. But this? This is just hoping... and losing a little bit of it every time nothing comes up.
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  4. #54
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Yeah I'm on run 36 and got the Gabriel Mount, but I want the hair. I am having a hard time not getting salty. But I do not find running DR endlessly wondering if today will be the day very unenjoyable.

    Even the massive grind for the relic was okay you know, because the end was in sight, every time you did there was a result you could work towards. But this? This is just hoping... and losing a little bit of it every time nothing comes up.
    Yeah. While I got burned out on the relic grind on step two, there is always an end in sight. You could theoretically do this forever, and NEVER get a drop. I didn't even know there was barding, until I read this thread!
    (3)
    WHM | RDM | DNC

  5. #55
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    reivaxe's Avatar
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    Jellicle Jayde
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    Maduin
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    HoH was better designed as alternative leveling than bozja..
    No, it's not.

    HoH and PoTD makes you want to blow your brains out, things die too fast for you to learn your rotation, there's nothing "fun" about it and the boss fights are brain-dead.

    It's only better if you want to rot your brain as you slap paper mobs and not explore a zone with lore and such.
    (2)

  6. #56
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    No, it's not.

    HoH and PoTD makes you want to blow your brains out, things die too fast for you to learn your rotation, there's nothing "fun" about it and the boss fights are brain-dead.

    It's only better if you want to rot your brain as you slap paper mobs and not explore a zone with lore and such.
    Outside of CEs and a couple select Fate bosses, leveling through Bozja is just as mindless, as most Fate grinds tend to be. I enjoy Bozja more than POTD and HoH though in almost every aspect, including leveling.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    No, it's not.

    HoH and PoTD makes you want to blow your brains out, things die too fast for you to learn your rotation, there's nothing "fun" about it and the boss fights are brain-dead.

    It's only better if you want to rot your brain as you slap paper mobs and not explore a zone with lore and such.
    That's your opinion, and that's fine.
    But I don't find myself, quote, wanting to blow my brains out, when i do PotD/HoH.

    If I wanted to learn my rotation, I would do to a striking dummy. Much better as far as developing muscle memory goes.
    Also you contradict yourself a bit there? "It's not a better method to level because things die too fast." ???? So taking less time in PotD/HoH to level makes it worse than Bozja?
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  8. #58
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    MariaArvana's Avatar
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    Maria Rubrum
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    Also you contradict yourself a bit there? "It's not a better method to level because things die too fast." ???? So taking less time in PotD/HoH to level makes it worse than Bozja?
    The fastest way to get enough tomestones back in the day for the HW relic was to do Aetherochemical facility nearly 100x.

    Just because something is more efficient or takes less time doesn't mean its more enjoyable. I'd agree with their opinion in saying Bozja is infinitely more enjoyable than PoTD/HoH due to how boring they are compared to Bozja.
    (2)

  9. #59
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    Lakryma Tyental
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I just started the bozjan and relic questline, because I really wanted the hairstyle since the hairstyle-competition.
    How the heck can I stay motivated when I read all of this? Lots of grind is awaiting me to reach a wall (Castrum).
    After that hours of hours of another dungeon grind for a little chance (can be optained on the first try, can never be optained by rng).

    SE are you kidding me?!
    (2)

  10. #60
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varilyon View Post
    SE are you kidding me?!
    Sadly they are not. Gotta pad those sub numbers somehow.
    (2)
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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