summoner please don't take anything for it please improve the summoner

[Styrmwyda]

I myself like the Summoner having pets that have infinite health. My idea is this for each Egi will have a passive effect when summoned. Ifrit-Egi will increase the damage of your single target direct damage spells. Titan-Egi will increase the damage of your single target damage over time spells, and Garuda-Egi will increase the damage of your area of effect spells. When you summon Demi-Bahamut/ Demi-Phoenix, all three effects will be active during their time.

[GrizzlyTank]

Pet job? What pet job! *Throws book at foe*

[HeulGDarian]

I myself like the Summoner having pets that have infinite health. My idea is this for each Egi will have a passive effect when summoned. Ifrit-Egi will increase the damage of your single target direct damage spells. Titan-Egi will increase the damage of your single target damage over time spells, and Garuda-Egi will increase the damage of your area of effect spells. When you summon Demi-Bahamut/ Demi-Phoenix, all three effects will be active during their time.

i'd prefer if they made devotion be different per pet like enkindle :3, like a def buff for titan , speed for garuda , dps for ifrit

[Payadopa]

Complexity doesn't always equal fun though. Clearly not enough people found MNK fun its prior state, so they went and tweaked it.

Fair enough. Simplification doesn't either, though. Comes down to personal preference, sure. I'm just wary of SE's streamlining. lol

[Payadopa]

SMN is clunky, not complex. There’s a difference. I’m not looking for SE to “dumb the job down”. I’m looking for gameplay that is smoother and less awkward than it is now. It feels like the pet actions and the rest of the job are completely separate things.

The pet itself disappears for half of the rotation and I’m not sure why people are so attached to it.

That's were we have to agree to disagree. Me and my FC find it a complete mess. And it's impossible for me to find a controller layout that makes sense. lol

It sure is a shining example of complexity doesn't equal fun, come to think of it. It's not even complex, just awkward and clunky.

And who doesn't love having a summon follow you around? I don't understand. haha

[BloodRubyXII]

I'd rather lose the dots and have more pet play.

Also SMN is far simpler with a far smoother cycle than it has ever been. Ghosting is probably the last lingering issue with the job.

[Savagelf]

one thing SE need to do is add another pet job
let suppose Ranger with hawk pet and hand crossbow this give the a pool of job to balance pet out figure what they want dps of pet to be versus dps of job

here how i would do it ranger dps versus they pet dps
summoner versus they pet dps

my suggest make summoner have carbruncle and Demi is more basic how summon have been like in ffviii. have pet apply dots could also be solution have ruby carbruncle have dots effect this way summoner just have them re-apply and spread it out but have more base carbruncle type have the demi-Ego replace Ego and have summoner be able summon carbruncle and demi can summon depend on carbruncle shiva for diamond carbruncle. have the carbuncle cause elemental dots depend on which summon this make summoner more like it has been a magic cast yet allow it spell to damage still basic on demi

[Galand]

Seriously its so clunky and nowhere near its original design intent which was being a caster with dots...just trash what they got and give us summons already

[ClickClick]

summoner is really good if you're good at summoner

[Igneous]

When I do play dps on the occasion I typically with go with my summoner, and while I do love it I think it’s the most nonsensical clunky job around. I really wish the spells a summoner could employ would just be attacks that pull the egi out for a spell and then move on to the next egi in the rotation. This could then build up to the Demi summons for the big bursts. Would have more of a summoner fantasy to me.

I also love DoT jobs, just feels weird that summoner is our DoT user. I’ve always thought that though.

It sounds like you want the fighting style of Yuna inf FF dissidia duodecim

Which I would be completely fine with, as long as egis are still within the attacks like yuna

God I hate they they removed them from pvp