Instead of cutting Ultimate from 5.5 why not cut bozja?

[MPK]

No ultimate is a much bigger balloon pop to the economy than many causals realize.

4-star food and pots, RIP. Lost a ton of worth from this point on. Less people to do savage, re-clears, for raid groups, etc. It's pretty massive hit.

Imagine caring what BiS is now, this gear is certainly not Bozja BiS, that's haste gear you get in bozja augmented.

It's certainly not BiS for previous ultimates if your group wants to do that. Woooo you're i530 in Maytoya's, gonna kill a pig faster.

The cookie crumbles when there is nothing else to work for in the game, expect the unsubs to pile up again just like after months of Shiva Savage.

Well casuals don't care about Gil. They only care about rping in the quicksands and afking @limsa

[Vahlnir]

Well casuals don't care about Gil. They only care about rping in the quicksands and afking @limsa

I make a modest amount of gil daily, and I don't get it through food and potions. So....

[MrJPtheAssassin]

Well casuals don't care about Gil. They only care about rping in the quicksands and afking @limsa

I bet those "casuals" have more fun and enjoy the game whole a lot more than you it seems so my question is why are you even here other than to troll. If you don't like the fact ffxiv isn't more raid focus then why continue to play it and pay a sub? Is your life is so boring and miserable that the only fun you have in life is ultimates and trolling "casuals" on the forums. I think you need to take a break and think about your sorry excuse of a life and actually grow up. Go play wow, play ESO, or just find something else to make your life better bc you whining on this forums, and attacking others isn't going to accomplish anything at all.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Well casuals don't care about Gil. They only care about rping in the quicksands and afking @limsa

Ironically you probably spend more time afk in limsa than most casuals.

Its usually the ultimate titled people I see afking in cities.

Casuals are usually doing content.

Signed, raider.

[Colt47]

Problem is that when you go into doing something like savage, there really is only two modes of play: You either blitzkrieg the hell out of it within one or two weeks, or you find a static or pug for what little time you have to try and down content where a dip in motivation can cost you a lot of progress. The ones who do the blitzkrieg are better off IMO because they get to see all the content in one swoop, which really isn't that much: It's just a special end boss with some extra cutscenes. Doing it the other way is a surefire way to burn yourself out near the end, since you have to keep going with that static until either the content is cleared or the next patch comes.

[technole]

Oh nooooo....
Never mind. I can't even pretend I'm shocked. lol

Also, since I'm stupid, I always assumed Ultimate was [cancelled] hence the echo chamber shit storm, but it got only delayed. Like wtf LOL This many pages for something you'll get anyway.

Technically it's been cancelled from Shadowbringers. The projected release in 6.1 is likely 2022 because 6.0 is projected this Fall, and they don't release an ultimate until 3 months from a savage, which gives groups time to get BiS to challenge it.

Well casuals don't care about Gil. They only care about rping in the quicksands and afking @limsa

Usually it's some Limsa AFK person who wants to show off some sheaved four-year old sword and board relic from Heavensward.

[Mavrias]

Technically it's been cancelled from Shadowbringers. The projected release in 6.1 is likely 2022 because 6.0 is projected this Fall, and they don't release an ultimate until 3 months from a savage, which gives groups time to get BiS to challenge it.



Usually it's some Limsa AFK person who wants to show off some sheaved four-year old sword and board relic from Heavensward.

its pretty much canceled entirely unless they're planning on putting out 3 ultimates for 6.0.

[Absurdity]

its pretty much canceled entirely unless they're planning on putting out 3 ultimates for 6.0.

I guess technically it isn't, it's shifting the goalpost. Getting the 2nd ShB ultimate in 6.1 means you're most likely not gonna get the 2nd Endwalker ultimate until 7.1... and so on.

[Undeadfire]

Ironically you probably spend more time afk in limsa than most casuals.

Its usually the ultimate titled people I see afking in cities.

Casuals are usually doing content.

Signed, raider.

Somewhat wrong. You won't ever see them afking in Limsa, Ul'dah, Gridania. It's currently afk Eulmore, Craft/afk at their house, gather materials, doing raid log runs, speed running Raids, or offline.

[Guulu]

Started from late HW/early SB, I mainly raid in FF14 and it is the most fun I find in it. But to be frankly I find ShB is really underwhelming in the combat department. The ultimate "delay" ( if we don't get 3 in EW it is in fact "canceled" ) is big part of the reason.

This isn't just a so called "content for 1%" being merely delayed", or raiders vs casuals, it is about SE breaking their promise. And before you reply let me explain this.

First of all, I totally understand the situation and why they made the decision, but it is still not totally justified for me.

Before 4.5, they explained why there won't be 3rd ultimate in SB because accroding to SE, players responded 3rd ultimate will be too much because they're burnt out.
So they then announce there will only be 2 ultimates in SB and for the future expansions as well. Totally understandable.

Then comes the 5.2 interview, which is almost a year ago ( mid Feb, 2020 ), SE said they will delay the ultimate to 5.5. Even though this decision is questionable for some raiders because usually it is in the middle of a patch where there will be lacking content. But we're not the devs so we don't know what are they planning, we can only trust their decisions.

5.4 dropped in Dec 2020, still no news about new ultimate. Even then some raid groups still aim to get BiS as soon as possible so they can get their main and alt jobs ready for new ultimate in case they need to switch.

And now here we are, on the 9th week into the savage tier they finally announced there will not be an ultimate in 5.5, a content that is promised from previous expansion, announced to be delayed a year ago, won't be here until the end of 2021 or the start of 2022. Players that are looking foward it, no matter how few of them, will be of course be dissappointed and voice their discontent.

On top of that, SE also stated in 4.0 that savage fights are tuned easier so that more players can enjoy it, in compensate of that they will make ultimate difficulty, which is a win-win for everyone that enjoys or wants to try battle content. In 5.0 they not only continued this route, but also simplified most jobs because they expect there will be many new players joining, which is true.

So in ShB, dedicated raiders not only lost the content that they are promised to, most fights and jobs are also not as enjoyable as before. IMO this ultimate being delayed is just a last straw for them. Again, no matter how few of them are there, their voice should not be ignored.

Not to mention the amount of new stuffs (mostly not battle related) that are added in ShB is way more than before. Can't remember all but here's some not in specific order: Ocean fishing, gpose update, dungeon exploration, mogstation items, crafter/gatherer UI update and skill overhaul ( I know some ppl are upset about this ), new 48 men savage ( really good feedback afaik )

This way of course the raiders that specifically enjoy ultimate will feel left out. Even if they can do 48 men savage, it is locked behind a long grind not everyone enjoys.

For me this is more about SE's poor prioirity or simply their decision making. This is also probably how the game's heading in EW. So no hopes up but still looking foward to new expansion.