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  1. #131
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    I honestly have no idea.

    The word "filth" evokes Beastmaster. "Fury" evokes Berserker. Imagery evokes Necromancer. A little digging evokes a myriad of other classes.

    For what it's worth, I would enjoy a Berserker/Beastmaster hybrid. But I highly doubt we'll get anything like that.

    I'm prepped for something completely random.

    The only class that I'm semi-certain will not be our melee DPS is a Necromancer/Reaper. They name dropped it, which would utterly kill the hype if they technically announced it early.
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  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahoukenshi View Post
    Why "too"? Sage is not XIV exclusive. https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Sage_(job)
    Regarding the Gundam Wing take on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    To be fair something did happen in the game that seemed to suggest chemist might be a new class. Very often in the past SE introduced new classes by having new npcs as those classes before players could access them. Considering this the miqo child npc who wants to be a traveler who helps others with her alchemy can easily appear to be a teaser about a new type of healer. We have seen this sort of thing before.

    At this point I'm wondering if SE made that miqo npc just to fool us into thinking a combat alchemist class was coming, and then would get great joy in our shock at seeing Alphinaud being a healer with weapons we have never seen before and appear to have no relation to alchemy or chemist.
    Plot twist the melee dps is the chemist with Dr.Jekyl and Mr. Hyde mutagens!
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    Last edited by Takamorisan; 02-09-2021 at 02:33 AM.

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  4. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takamorisan View Post
    Regarding the Gundam Wing take on it
    Yea from what we know of FFXIV's version of Sage, it appears to be nothing like previous incarnations of it in other FF games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Takamorisan View Post
    Plot twist the melee dps is the chemist with Dr.Jekyl and Mr. Hyde mutagens!
    That would actually be really cool! And it actually does sound a bit like the transformation Ran'jit does and he uses a scythe.
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  5. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    I’m throwing my money at Beastmaster.

    Hear me out:

    The shirt references the “sex pistols”.
    Wife has informed me that here in Japan, there is an obscure manga called “sex pistols” which is about humans with slight animal hybrid blood.
    Not Beastars level..just macho men with some animal-like character traits..

    And before you google away, warning: lots of boy on boy romance.

    (Personally still hoping for Rune Knight...but wife was convincing)
    This makes me want to throw more money at Ranjit like job, who is a sort of Beastmaster. Which would tie in the imagery of the rest of it more I think (Ranjit, when transformed, looks pretty reaper 'infused').

    Also consider that his second shirt relates to "Follow The Reaper" (if you look into the band on the shirt). People have suggested Reaper as a name for the job, and he did double reaper us (grim reaper).

    So it seems to me maybe we're likely to see a unique beast master* dark (which gets the 'necro' vibe, but I highly doubt, very highly, it'll involve zombies) transforming light job. *Like, very lite on the beastmaster part of the concept.

    Like FFXI Dragoon's fusing technique made into a slightly dark inspired job.

    Just to go over what we know at the moment:

    First shirt may refer to sex pistols, has a reaper on it, talks about filth and fury. Second shirt has a reaper, is for a metal band, they've a piece "follow the reaper".

    The first shirt using the similar to Spiderman = Samurai concept could also refer to the job templar, which may go in line with Paladin being the poster child.

    However we do see a scythe in the trailer, well "probably". Like in the last trailer they did show off the weapon, it would probably make sense they do that again here (good advertising). It might be a safe guess to assume we will get extended trailers too, so whatever we saw will be built on. Appears the scythe is for Zenos, so Ranjit like concept would flow since it had that sort of dark visual (when he transformed).

    Also Ranjit's job got an unusual amount of attention I would argue- it may have been a test ground for response from players, or a super early teaser. Naturally it would also make sense we wouldn't be exactly like them, just in case people assume it'll be a lightning dragon pet lol. It may not even lore relate to him, just seems like natural inspiration point given the imagery of the job and then the shirts, and weapon.

    In terms of gameplay I imagine they're not going to do full on pet beastmaster stuff since they constantly say how it's a huge pain for them (and the jobs have a struggle whenever the pet gets to think too much on it's own lol). I imagine the job MAY have helpers but they'd be far far more like Yuna Dissida than even summoner is currently. Like Dark Knight's helper.

    For some super massive tinfoil connections. Anima is part of this coming expansion, anima having to deal with souls (just the name specifically). Then the imagery of Anima is a bit in line with Filth and Fury. Furthermore there is comment about Anima's rage in one of SE's side project bestiary kind of things. Then there is the job our ally in ShB has where they got pretty evil looking when they went into battle form, and they too also dealt with souls.

    With that said then bringing back the reaper imagery, maybe soul relating magic, an aggressive and dark job (filth and fury).

    In gameplay sense I think suggesting it has some casting, or other semi-dangerous, actions isn't too unreasonable since it seemed to be suggested they will use dragoon armor (which has higher physical defense than the other melees). DRG armor also tends to be a little bit more aggressive looking than the other melees which tend to be more refined, or light and nimble.

    For names, besides reaper, one might look to ravager as a job name (or inspiration) which has been used in previous FF games. The design of Ranjit may have also been inspired by a ravager in another FF game. Also inspired by Golbez who wears heavier armor (although Ranjit's armor isn't too heavy looking, so just drawing thin lines of relations lol).

    Ravager being a magic in your face job, Golbez being a strong magical (in essence, in your face) job as well.

    Also the WoL going from Paladin to this job might make a really cool trailer scene, if they chose to start out Paladin but shift into this dark reaper imagery. So in our next trailer he may go dark (opposite of Cecil lol).

    Or you know.. could be whatever lol. Just having fun stretching lines to meet.

    Spiderman was Samurai, yet Scarlet Witch was Red mage. These things could be obvious, or not at all.

    My two uncertain gil go towards a hybrid job, in the sense that it's not inspired from just one concept, that'll be a bit aggressive, not just physicals but also with magic, and perhaps dark inspired but maybe or maybe not strictly theme'd that way. If I had to pick a more specific direction I'm saying Ravager or Reaper. Personal hope is that it comes with some awesome looking transformation like mechanics...

    If they wanted to play on the expansion name maybe Abyss Walker. Void Walker seems too on the nose lol.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 02-09-2021 at 03:25 AM.

  6. #135
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    Anybody suggest Beastmaster as the next limited job? Personally I feel like it would be perfect for that.
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  7. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreyVoreas93 View Post
    Anybody suggest Beastmaster as the next limited job? Personally I feel like it would be perfect for that.
    Tons of people. Including Yoshi-P.

    Which would be a shame if they got that treatment, since nothing really has that bestial vibe in the "real" Jobs. Maybe Warrior if you squint. If you like Blue Mages... there's other Mages for you to play in the actual game. If you like Beastmaster? You've got nothing equitable.
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  8. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkilak View Post
    Tons of people. Including Yoshi-P.

    Which would be a shame if they got that treatment, since nothing really has that bestial vibe in the "real" Jobs. Maybe Warrior if you squint. If you like Blue Mages... there's other Mages for you to play in the actual game. If you like Beastmaster? You've got nothing equitable.
    Ah gotcha, and yea that’s a damn shame, it does seem like a missed opportunity!
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  9. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreyVoreas93 View Post
    Ah gotcha, and yea that’s a damn shame, it does seem like a missed opportunity!
    If they can make Limited Jobs more relevant to current content, I'd be all for slotting Beastmaster in. But they're so disjointed right now, so it would be a personal disappointment to "waste" the concept.
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  10. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkilak View Post
    If they can make Limited Jobs more relevant to current content, I'd be all for slotting Beastmaster in. But they're so disjointed right now, so it would be a personal disappointment to "waste" the concept.
    I completely agree, it’s exactly why I do not mess with BLU anymore. Time will certainly tell how they decide to go forward. I for one hope that Beastmaster becomes and actual job one day.
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  11. #140
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    I love the XIV take on the Sage as a healer with lasers as opposed to the sage from other final fantasy games. A super red mage. Part of me hopes the new melee will be similar to the gunbreaker in the sense that it is a unique job to xiv that may just use ability names and reference characters from other games in the series. If it is a scythe user, all the better.
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    Last edited by Ultaniku; 02-09-2021 at 04:57 AM.

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