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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    To be honest, I'm glad they didn't wasted much resources on Ultimate which most of the players never will experience anyway. Boss fights in this game are simply boring (no matter which difficulty) and take way to long for the little rewards they give. How long usually a Savage Boss takes? 15min? 20min? Sounds like fun lets do Ultimate and beat the same Boss in 30min. for shity loot.

    Seriously if i want fun and challenging long Boss fights i play something like Monster Hunter or another MMO.
    These guys think people do ultimate solely for the rewards. I feel bad for these guys who will never feel the rush that you get for clearing content that may take months to prog
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    These guys think people do ultimate solely for the rewards. I feel bad for these guys who will never feel the rush that you get for clearing content that may take months to prog

    You are right that is something I had never understand in over 20 years of MMO gaming. To me this stuff only feels like wasted lifetime with a lot of boring and frustrating moments. It doesn't feel rewarding and has more with unpaid work in common than anything else. So why wasting time with this stuff if there is an endless ocean of other fun things i can do? If I ever get the desire to punish myself i go to a BDSM club, at least the Dominas there look nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    You are right that is something I had never understand in over 20 years of MMO gaming. To me this stuff only feels like wasted lifetime with a lot of boring and frustrating moments. It doesn't feel rewarding and has more with unpaid work in common than anything else. So why wasting time with this stuff if there is an endless ocean of other fun things i can do? If I ever get the desire to punish myself i go to a BDSM club, at least the Dominas there look nice.
    Because it's boring to a number of people?

    'Endless ocean of other fun things to do.'

    You mean like doing content where winning is inevitable and the challenge is barely there? Or glamming it up and AFKing someplace to show off that glam?

    I'm not at all an Ultimate raider, but I understand the drive to do something that you personally view as tough. It's basic human nature to push the body or mind to that point because it genuinely is thrilling.

    Why do you think Dark Souls is popular?

    Why do you think that games have 'Savage' difficulty levels implemented?

    Not everyone wants monotonous, normal quality 'it takes less then thirty minutes' and 'everyone's a winner' content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
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    I mean stuff like real life, another game, meeting friends, hanging out with your partner or going to a movie or doing other activities ingame yea. Maybe you allready heard about it.
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    If the devs haven't finished this fight yet, it's because they're pissed off to work on it. They'd rather develop something else and since they're developing something else, at the end, when you look at where it's at on this fight, well, you can see that it's not progressing. Just remember the dev who designed E2S, he's an old guy who developed a lot of HL fights. He made it clear that he was stopping doing HL fights because he was tired of it. But as he saw that there was no one for E2S, he had to design it so that the raid would be ready in time.

    And on the player side, the idea was that the players who do savage raids would get something during odd patches. But it turned out that the majority of these people don't care about ultimate and they are already a minority in this game to begin with.

    In fact, almost no dev wants to develop ultimates and almost no player wants to play ultimates.

    From that point on, ultimates should have stopped after Ucob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    I mean stuff like real life, another game, meeting friends, hanging out with your partner or going to a movie or doing other activities ingame yea. Maybe you allready heard about it.
    Last time I checked, there's a pandemic going on. So your 'real life' suggestions aren't that great.

    Secondly, telling someone/anyone they're 'wasting their time' by doing harmless stuff they genuinely enjoy makes for a poor argument.

    They have a genuine reason to be sore about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    You are right that is something I had never understand in over 20 years of MMO gaming. To me this stuff only feels like wasted lifetime with a lot of boring and frustrating moments. It doesn't feel rewarding and has more with unpaid work in common than anything else. So why wasting time with this stuff if there is an endless ocean of other fun things i can do? If I ever get the desire to punish myself i go to a BDSM club, at least the Dominas there look nice.
    Well I guess that's difference between our mentalities. I personally find things that are just given to you and are easy just straight up boring. The rush of clearing something that's extremely difficult makes everything worth it. Have you seen how xenosys reacted when he cleared TEA? That was pretty much my reaction too when I first cleared TEA

    https://youtu.be/BOQSY3z4yTk?t=1080

    That's something that casuals will never get to experience
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    Well I guess that's difference between our mentalities. I personally find things that are just given to you and are easy just straight up boring. The rush of clearing something that's extremely difficult makes everything worth it. Have you seen how xenosys reacted when he cleared TEA? That was pretty much my reaction too when I first cleared TEA

    https://youtu.be/BOQSY3z4yTk?t=1080

    That's something that casuals will never get to experience
    He gets paid to play the game and to give reactions like that, bad example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steviejd View Post
    He gets paid to play the game and to give reactions like that, bad example.
    For my experience that's more of the tamer reactions....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    For my experience that's more of the tamer reactions....
    Do some of them beat up their sexdolls or something?
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