Instead of cutting Ultimate from 5.5 why not cut bozja?

[Steviejd]

Forget about these people, no words will reach them.

To them it's all casual while calling us selfish and projecting all kinds of nonsense. Just because some of us don't like this they constantly mention how little people actually cared. I don't know but being here on this forum for not even a day or two is already mentally exhausting. I don't have a problem with casual content but they seem to want our kind out of the game altogether.

It's far more mentally exhausting for casual players. All I see on this forum are so-called 'hardcore' players whining that they aren't being catered for so you are being very revisionistic. You are literally in a thread with someone saying that they want casual content cut for their 'hardcore' content which they probably suck at anyway.

[Steviejd]

I have edited my post, I don't agree with the OP in this regard. But for every post like this you have someone with the exact same mentality wanting something gone they find too difficult.

Sure and I disagree with them too, that is a whataboutism though.

Ultimate has been delayed, it sucks, I get it, but it is still coming. They even had a segment going over what goes into making Ultimate fights, it's not easy, especially with the current situation around the world and how they've been delayed because of it. They are already delaying the expansion and I'm sure they are having to pour so much of their resources into that right now. Don't forget that not only do they have us to please they also have the big bosses at SE to please and their share-holders. Ultimate won't bring in the money but a new expansion will.

[Kaurhz]

Forget about these people, no words will reach them.

To them it's all casual while calling us selfish and projecting all kinds of nonsense. Just because some of us don't like this they constantly mention how little people actually cared. I don't know but being here on this forum for not even a day or two is already mentally exhausting. I don't have a problem with casual content but they seem to want our kind out of the game altogether.

Nah not many people actually have this impression contrary to your belief, and in fact, arguably a lot of people would be sympathetic to the cause if it was expressed properly. The issue just arises when people seem to be of the understanding that those developing one piece of content e.g. PvP, Triple Triad, are also equally qualified to be touching on or doing Ultimate content, or vice versa with those doing Ultimate content touching on other areas of the game. It's not an effective use of developer time to send people into areas that they clearly would be unqualified for, and sure this is one thing. But then more issues come about when you propose that, because I don't like content, therefore it should be dropped mentality, irrespective of the backlash it has from other areas or spaces of the community. It's not really a good way to make a point, all you're only ever going to get people that rise up in arms all so eager to suckle enjoyment out of the misfortune. Probably deservingly so in fact. This works for both sides of coin, really.

Nah drop PvP? How do you think people that enjoy PvP would feel about this, or who have interest in seeing PvP get, I don't know? Better?

Nah drop Triple Triad updates, it's useless! How do you think some people particularly those that are collectionists or completionists feel about this, despite the very fact people have for a long time expressed disapproval for how Triple Triad has been implemented or worked

Nah drop 24-man or 48-man, nobody cares about it! How about the simple fact that some people would and do genuinely enjoy this content since it is a relatively untouched, and new space; 48-man savage anyway.

Nah drop Bozja, it's crap anyway, nobody likes it! I can assure you plenty of people enjoy this, what about the people that enjoy this and the story contained therein.

If you want to complain about something, don't make it come at the point of proposing to cut off content from other people; you'll only get backlash for it lol

[Steviejd]

It seems to me alot of people think if they lose out on an argument it means something they are in favour of will be lost. Effectively losing a battle which means that content will be lost, and this etc.

The way OP has formulated or should I say expressed themselves is very poor and immature, true, but guess what. People love drama, no one wants to see a rational and honest discussion these days. People seem to take their own frustration out on everyone else these days irrespectable of the consequences this has on a grander scale. This happens all the time. We lose content we like, and someone has to shove their boot in our mouths. I understand the frustration OP has, even though worded poorly, intentional or not.

Now Ultimate is on the noose. While casuals are bathing in content, we are losing way more and I suppose this is the reason for all this desperation.

The whole problem is the "us against them" mentality I keep seeing, it's stupidly dividing the playerbase. Also you say that hardcore players have nothing but what is the 48-man savage? That's certainly not casual content.

The dev team have obviously had to prioritise due to covid and a lack of resources and the dev team obviously have data to help them decide which pieces of content to prioritise and what parts of the team can do what. The same people creating Farmville :FFXIV Edition would not be the same people developing Ultimate.

Anyway it is the same with all MMO's. If you go to any of their forums (WoW, ESO etc) it is the same with people bitching, complaining and whining.