Does Square intend to address Market botting?

[Kes13a]

I really just shake my head...

one of the crafting/market bots on Zalera is ranked in the top 12 fc's. they have 9 people, 8 of those people are running retainers at market bells and having leveled in... months.
the fc leader rarely leaves their apartment and given how high they rank, and how much gear they churn out, obviously crafts 24/7

how is it that doesnt raise ANY flags at SE. I crafts daily, the fc has many active leveling members... and we are nowhere near that.

I dont get it.

[Jojoya]

Ofc there are more buyers than sellers. What if the "few" sellers decided to stop crafting and selling huh?

Except there will always be new sellers to appear to those who want to buy. That's our capitalist society - a seller will always appear when there is some profit, small or large, to be made.

Why do you think gaming can't get rid of bots and RMT? It's because they keep going after the bots instead of going after those who benefit from using those services.

You could take a step back and look at logical responses to your points.

Why are you trying to deal in those items if you're practically giving them away for free when you could be choosing other items that yield a greater profit? There absolutely are underserved areas of the market board that will generate steady, though not grossly exaggerated, profits.

Why are you crafting truck loads of items at all?

Why are you updating your retainers every 5 minutes instead of sitting tight at your preferred price when all that does is get those running the price adjustment scripts to lower prices even more?

Why are you coming to the forums to complain about something you feel is trivial?

I really just shake my head...

one of the crafting/market bots on Zalera is ranked in the top 12 fc's. they have 9 people, 8 of those people are running retainers at market bells and having leveled in... months.
the fc leader rarely leaves their apartment and given how high they rank, and how much gear they churn out, obviously crafts 24/7

how is it that doesnt raise ANY flags at SE. I crafts daily, the fc has many active leveling members... and we are nowhere near that.

I dont get it.

Why would that raise red flags? Crafting Expert and level 80 Master recipes generates a disproportionately large number of company credits compared to the amount generated by doing most other content. Turning in crafted gear (esp HQ), dungeon drops and tomestone gear (the higher the ilvl the better) for GC seals also generates large amounts of company credits. The number of credits generated by doing quests is insignificant in comparison.

Every time I go on a major crafting binge, our FC will shoot up somewhere between 6th and 12th place where we're normally in the 30s-40s. It doesn't take all that much to get near the top on lower pop worlds (by NA standards) like Coeurl and Zalera.

A FC's ranking isn't going to raise red flags. The individual ranking of a player might. Not trying to say the player you're referring to is or is not botting, just that the criteria you're using isn't proof of anything.

[Prrringles]

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Yeah thanks for the tips. I'm a crafter since it became a thing and have multiple gil caps so I can hold my own, thanks. To most of your questions: Because it works for me. No one buys my items if I set a price and leave it collect dust on my retainers. Bots undercut too frequent. Im not going to explain the obvious. It works for me in this bot controlled market. Period.

And the reason I come to the forum is because I care about other people losing interest in the game because of bots. I don't think this is trivial, but it should be. Bots should never have been a thing here if SE was more vigilent. I mean the JP servers are pretty clean.. why is that? Why can the STF keep their own backyard clean but not ours?

By the way, you never contribute anything to the cause here. All you do is argue and trying to discredit everyone here. I mean, look at your post counter. You reply on everything that gets posted on this forum. If you don't agree with something, post it, and move on. We can manage without you, thanks.

[ItMe]

I mean the JP servers are pretty clean.. why is that? Why can the STF keep their own backyard clean but not ours?

Are they clean?
I've heard this on these forums a few times but haven't been able to find anything about it (maybe because I only read basic Japanese lol).
I came from Tonberry (a JP server) and can assure you the bots were pretty ugly there too.
Why do people think those servers are clean?
Is this a "the grass is greener" sorta situation?
Or is there something behind this mentality?
Anyone got, like, stats or something?

By the way, you never contribute anything to the cause here. All you do is argue and trying to discredit everyone here. I mean, look at your post counter. You reply on everything that gets posted on this forum. If you don't agree with something, post it, and move on. We can manage without you, thanks.

This is just as unconstructive as you claim they're being.

Also, are we reading the same posts?
Jojoya is helpful, heck rereading the last few pages of this thread alone pretty much every post was about trying to clear something up or strike towards the heart of the tangent I started.
I find Jojoya's perspective helpful, and while they can be involved in arguments (we all can, especially with conversations about FF14's housing and markets) they're far from argumentative.

And careful when calling someone out like this. Its skirting close to the kinds of comments we've seen people get banned for.