Better finish Delubrum now because it will dead cotent very soon

[Deceptus]

I don't think "It was fun, but after a few runs I'm never touching this f'ing place again!" is the kind of "fun" SE was going for. The only way content like this survives is if it can remain satisfying through repetition, and any content that can't isn't "fun" enough. I'll repeat, look at every single roulette; they've all remained relevant and completable on a daily basis for years. Castrum, on the other hand, is only months old and people can't get the ONE clear they need to progress. DR is poised to be an even more spectacular failure. This content is trash.

Insisting it's fun while piling on all of the excuses why you'll definitely be abandoning it as soon as you can is cute and all, but not very useful.

Because daily roulettes are generally 20ish minutes of braindead killing.

Unless you do MSQ, then it's 40 minutes of braindead killing.

Vs

Castrum which takes roughly 45min to 1 hour, is not braindead, you will die more than once, and you have to concentrate.

DR which is the the same as Castrum but worse.

People don't mind grinds if they come in relative short bursts over time that are easy to accomplish. They mind long, drawn out, high chance of failure.

The reward vs time spent in Castrum and DR simply aren't enough. It's laughable that SE has chosen to go this route. Why are they punishing their players? Did they learn NOTHING from Pagos?

[Colt47]

Because daily roulettes are generally 20ish minutes of braindead killing.

Unless you do MSQ, then it's 40 minutes of braindead killing.

Vs

Castrum which takes roughly 45min to 1 hour, is not braindead, you will die more than once, and you have to concentrate.

DR which is the the same as Castrum but worse.

People don't mind grinds if they come in relative short bursts over time that are easy to accomplish. They mind long, drawn out, high chance of failure.

The reward vs time spent in Castrum and DR simply aren't enough. It's laughable that SE has chosen to go this route. Why are they punishing their players? Did they learn NOTHING from Pagos?

I think there was a huge disconnect between the long term players and SE with this. The kind of player that wants alternatives to savage wants to shut off in their evenings from a hard day of work. Bazja fates are okayish and the relic grind is okay, but castrum and the new one? Not so much.

[Goji1639]

And the above is the kind of nonsense that makes me shake my head. As if everyone who likes it derives some evil glee from it because others will get excluded. The more participate and are willing to learn the better.

You know as well as I do that this content will be absolutely dead in a few weeks max. None of the people who claim to "love this content" are going to stick with it, and why would they? The groups are random, so you have to reteach the mechanics every time. There's no standard group structure, so it relies on people having the right lost actions to compensate. It has punishing mechanics and is a MASSIVE mettle sink. The rewards are crap.

I mean, the only possible explanation is that this content was created INTENTIONALLY to only last a week, and basically leave everyone who tries to join in late stranded.

[Oichi]

Alright, I tried Delubrum a second time. With a full group and 3 healers in my party, it wasn't half as bad as my terrible first run. From over 2 h then, we did it in under 40 mins; I still died a few, but a ton less, and I understood a few more mechanics. So is doable and learnable if you are lucky with your group. Will it have any longevity after people have got their gear? I have my doubts. It really would need better rewards for that, in my opinion.

What pains me most, though, is that every day I am seeing players BEGGING for people to join when Castrum pops up so they can have their first clear. Most of the time, to no avail. So the development team should really do something about that, since it's stopping many players from progressing in Bozja.

Again, I think it's a matter of rewards (and in the case of Castrum at least, of mettle loss with no compensation). A change is needed. Just my two cents.

[OvernightSiren]

Yep, therein lies the worst part of Bozja and all Bozja-adjacent content. Absolutely no future proofing.

[Wrestlefire769]

Deceptus, vis-a-vis your sig: Then start asking for parsers to be made legal and evidence to report players. (If they become evidence, you can then report them for Obstruction.)

Since you are all basically "screw the casual bads" and the like...

[Absurdity]

Deceptus, vis-a-vis your sig: Then start asking for parsers to be made legal and evidence to report players. (If they become evidence, you can then report them for Obstruction.)

Since you are all basically "screw the casual bads" and the like...

Ah yes, I guess we reached the point where expecting "basic competency" is considered elitist.
Nobody has an issue with casuals, what they have an issue with are people who can't even be bothered to put in the minimum amount of effort to achieve the "basic competency" required for not dragging everyone else down in party content.

Casuals and lazy people are not the same thing.

[Payadopa]

Because daily roulettes are generally 20ish minutes of braindead killing.

Unless you do MSQ, then it's 40 minutes of braindead killing.

Vs

Castrum which takes roughly 45min to 1 hour, is not braindead, you will die more than once, and you have to concentrate.

DR which is the the same as Castrum but worse.

We have very different definitions of [worse]. Haha I'd take Castrum over DF any day of the week. The rewards could be better, I agree, but at the same time I don't do this calculation in my head where I try to find out the most effective way. I play to have fun. If it takes less time but I'm bored out of my mind that's not a reward for me.

[TroySoFab]

I mean it'll probably be dead come next expansion, but it is still alive and well today.

[ReynTime]

I wanted challenge the level of DR and CLL... but not as 24+ man crap.
It sucks all the enjoyment dry out of them to always have to endure dead weights who are intentionally being carried, and there's nothing you can do about it because Yoshi-P said this is exactly what he wants...