So thats it for BLU?

[TheMightyMollusk]

I both agree and disagree with this idea. On one hand I would have liked to see more spells learned from leveling up, but on the other, I feel like putting more of them as level cap spells means that fewer players get left out if they're trying to catch up later. Or at least that's the impression I'm getting looking at the PF for people trying to find BLU spells. Parties recruiting for level 1-50 spells tend to stay actively recruiting much longer than level 70 or even level 60 spells.

But also I would add that there actually were a few spells you could learn before level 70, they weren't ALL at level cap. Tingle, Triple Trident, Strotam, Base Instinct, Choco Meteor, and Athereal Spark were all spells that could be learned while leveling.

I did say instance skills, though I admit I forgot about Lakshmi.

As for the catching up....the level 50 groups aren't filling because people who already got those skills don't want to do it again. The same thing will happen in 6.x when BLU gets moved up to 80 and people who weren't here now are trying to get 70 skills. It's the same problem BLU's always had; for a job that's supposedly a solo adventure side quest, it locks a lot of the best stuff behind group content, then doesn't let you use Duty Finder to do it. If you can't find enough people, you're SOL.

[Infindox]

Yeah, I felt they didn't put much into it this time as I would have liked. I'm not a huge fan of BLU but I enjoy doing the Masked Carnivale stuff and just fooling around with friends trying out spells. The story was ok and I enjoyed the fight (and that FF6 reference!) but after I beat it and seeing no real rewards unlike the Morbol mount last time I pretty much went "... That's it?"

[SturmChurro]

Not happening.

If anything 6.0 is going to introduce another limited job.

Yeah, I'm expecting another limited job to be announced. Unfortunate.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Very wishful thinking, at no point did they say it would ever become a Full Job.

Frankly, I hope it never does, because if Blu ever became a "normal" job, we wouldnt be able to do the cool stuff we can with it. Can you see Missle or tailscrew working the same under a normal system? Blu is a pretty broken job, and it's fun for it. If they kept blu as if but pushed it up alongside the current jobs, then everything will get trivialized. Nobody wouldnt play blu.

[MonsutaMan]

Minority, but I like Blu in this game. However, it does feel like monstrosity from XI. A very fun mini game. Monstrosity was better though, because it unlocks hundreds of creatures so you looked cooler stomping around doing it. I can see BLU getting old to many due to this.....

Imo, BST and SMN were the only legit candidates for a solo job; because they have more meat to them. BST was pretty much all alone for like a decade in XI. SMN also had a solo catch them all theme in XI. Those tuning fork battles........

I really have no clue why BLU is limited..........The aforementioned 2 classes actually had solo oriented themes in the past FF mmo............But I digress......

[Nighthawky2010]

I did say instance skills, though I admit I forgot about Lakshmi.

As for the catching up....the level 50 groups aren't filling because people who already got those skills don't want to do it again. The same thing will happen in 6.x when BLU gets moved up to 80 and people who weren't here now are trying to get 70 skills. It's the same problem BLU's always had; for a job that's supposedly a solo adventure side quest, it locks a lot of the best stuff behind group content, then doesn't let you use Duty Finder to do it. If you can't find enough people, you're SOL.

I totally agree, especially with the issue of BLU, as SE stated that it was SOLO content, has to party-up for raids & trials. POTD, Squadrons, even Eureka would be great for BLU

[Seraphor]

I totally agree, especially with the issue of BLU, as SE stated that it was SOLO content, has to party-up for raids & trials. POTD, Squadrons, even Eureka would be great for BLU

Some of the new skills address this though, like Basic Instinct (which is available in an ARR zone) and Choco Meteor.
Making it possible to solo more content.

[FoxyAreku]

Not happening.

If anything 6.0 is going to introduce another limited job.

I sure hope not, that would be ridiculous considering the overwhelming amount of feedback that BLU sucks. Like, hurting sub numbers and their profits scale ridiculous.
Gonna pray they actually listened to the community on this one and BLU is just stuck in a limbo of 'too late to change it now'.

[Themarvin]

Should not be able to get relic upgrades running as one, it is wrong as it is not a full class but limited niche thing to do.

[Shougun]

I did say instance skills, though I admit I forgot about Lakshmi.

As for the catching up....the level 50 groups aren't filling because people who already got those skills don't want to do it again. The same thing will happen in 6.x when BLU gets moved up to 80 and people who weren't here now are trying to get 70 skills. It's the same problem BLU's always had; for a job that's supposedly a solo adventure side quest, it locks a lot of the best stuff behind group content, then doesn't let you use Duty Finder to do it. If you can't find enough people, you're SOL.

I totally agree, especially with the issue of BLU, as SE stated that it was SOLO content, has to party-up for raids & trials. POTD, Squadrons, even Eureka would be great for BLU

Still very obviously designed FOR PF, with many skills that will give you absolute hell if you tried to get on your own, but Basic Instinct (solo buff skill that works in instances, earned from ARR content) helps a bit now (still a job to pick up and then promptly drop in most situations). I think they should consider adding a bonus to learn rate on that skill, for the sake of instances (since that's where the skill works anyways). Perhaps with an upgrade later called Primal Instinct that grants you all three mimicry forms at once (and the other rules and bonuses of basic instinct).

Until they upgrade their skill design for the beginning though I'll still view it as a poorly introduced (how they introduced the job), poorly designed (as the first levels, pre-50 and especially w/o PF) job, the quality of skills in the beginning, and imo, the concept of skill progression, is bad. Very generic spamming progression to the job until post 50 AND you've obtained PF skills (or suffered a lot with basic instinct). You should be having a lot more activity, especially on a 'limited' job that needs less concerns for balance. Also it should be uncommon for skills to get straight kicked off the stage in their existence (unless it's something like a trait, like aero to dia). That or the skill is important but just feels awful to use, self stunning is just not fun lol, cast time on a movement skill is super sluggish feeling, the 'feel' could be better. But I did want to say you can simply see the 60 - 70 spells have a lot more fun in their designs (creative, thoughtful, unique mechanics, sometimes wacky to feel wild), that should have been the entire job, vast majority of the spells being this way (if not all of them). Even if you don't like my thought that the job should have been massively kit build focused with concepts of Diablo 3 / Hades (effect mixing wildness), I still think 1-50 was just "this is what I get for what I lost? INSTANT DELETE". (Instant delete as in my emotions about it, I generally think removing content is bad and evolving it is better - but when I experienced 1 - 50 I was like "this makes me feel very bad, I would have been happier this never existed").

They're clearly trying to repair some of the faults and the more recent spells are inspired / neat (60 - 70, far more interesting and clever ideas), but .. man I still hate what they've done to the job as a whole (but I am happier with their recent spell designs, they show a lot more care and thought- I wish the whole job felt like that). The job, imo, should have been designed FOR solo where they could have a lot more diversity of engagement and wacky ideas (not "for" PF, which is still giving us a 'separate but not equal job that is still balanced in some ways'), or normal content with side content as a bonus if need be. Or alternatively don't make this abomination /Riot lol, yes my opinion and yes I'm salty about it, and create something else new instead. All this talk of making blue to be blue but they still did things like butcher skills to be balanced (besides many chance based spells just being awful for balance, rather than figuring out a more engaging mechanic, we've things like fire agnon or angel whisper which are not like their mirrors as random examples). If they wanted full wack blue, it should have been solo designed. IF they were going to balance it then freaking normal with unique characteristics (you can absolutely still have a job that goes to learn spells "but what about that level 50 primal spell HUH?" ... it's called have the job learn it at level 51 then, you can make a logical schedule.. you just have to think it out). If they wanted to make PF exclusive content, then just make something new.

If they add another limited job from the iconic list then my sympathy to whoever lost a dream to their "made for PF, and only for old content" designs. Hopefully if they add another limited job it's something new and unrelated to something you might actually think could be "normal", like Magitek Operator or something (think Xenogears mechs and such).