Why the new Relic steps killed my hype for Bozja; the 1000th thread

[kidalutz]

45 clears? really you're complaining of 45 clears..

*laughs in Zodiac*

[Dogempire]

It’s not forced on you, it’s entirely optional content.

Why don’t you just do Eden normal and get the tomestone weapon, it seems more what you’re looking for.

I already have a tomestone weapon and if I was really desperate for an i515 weapon I would just reclear Emerald Weapon a few times, but that's not the point.

The point is that Bozja wasn't required for the previous steps, and now suddenly you're required to play catch-up and clear Castrum and the new 24 man raid, you know, the content that's been dead up until patch day despite being new?

Heck, if they want to make their failed garbage Eureka imitation mandatory for the relic, then you know what? Fine, but the least they could do is at least do the minimum and try to update it so that the experience is less painful, but they failed to do even that. It's still the same old bland boring content that I played for 30 minutes and then promptly dropped on the day it released

[TaleraRistain]

For the next month or two sure, but once the initial rush is over it'll be back to being dead since most people who want the relic won't have it held hostage by needing to clear the raids.

The fact that Bozja is dead between patches speaks volumes about the quality of the content they've churned out, and the fact that it's being forced on us now without making improvements to the content itself speaks volumes about their ability to listen to their player base.

Exactly. Without the resistance weapon, it died off quickly. Instead of making it appealing to the people who enjoy that content by addressing their concerns, they just shovel other players into it to make it live again for a bit. And then will make zero improvements once it dies again.

[Vahlnir]

45 clears? really you're complaining of 45 clears..

*laughs in Zodiac*

It's actually more than that, but still. It could be better but it could also be worse. If people really want to see a grind, I will point them in the direction of atma pre nerf in ARR. It took me days to get a single one, and I hit them fates hard!

[VirusChris]

It's actually more than that, but still. It could be better but it could also be worse. If people really want to see a grind, I will point them in the direction of atma pre nerf in ARR. It took me days to get a single one, and I hit them fates hard!

Took me 6 months to get all 12 ATMAs. ^_^

[Colt47]

I already have a tomestone weapon and if I was really desperate for an i515 weapon I would just reclear Emerald Weapon a few times, but that's not the point.

The point is that Bozja wasn't required for the previous steps, and now suddenly you're required to play catch-up and clear Castrum and the new 24 man raid, you know, the content that's been dead up until patch day despite being new?

Heck, if they want to make their failed garbage Eureka imitation mandatory for the relic, then you know what? Fine, but the least they could do is at least do the minimum and try to update it so that the experience is less painful, but they failed to do even that. It's still the same old bland boring content that I played for 30 minutes and then promptly dropped on the day it released

You left out the part about your soul being sundered from your body as you lose insane amounts of mettle from dying so much in the first run of the place.

[Colt47]

It's actually more than that, but still. It could be better but it could also be worse. If people really want to see a grind, I will point them in the direction of atma pre nerf in ARR. It took me days to get a single one, and I hit them fates hard!

It isn't content for everyone that is for sure. Again, it isn't the relic that is the problem it's Bazja. The way they engineered mettle is probably worse than eureka EXP, as in Eureka you could delevel, but as long as you had a rezzer you were okay. In Bazja you die you lose mettle no matter what, and if you release you lose even more mettle. You can't derank, but at the same time why does it matter? You either get to max or you get burned under this system.

[GrumbleBeard]

I just don't understand why they insist on the main activity in these types of content to be only grinding mobs or grinding fates. They could incorporate things like daily quests or B rank style hunts or anything really. But it's just grind mobs/fates, and the reason why it bothers me more in Eureka/Bozja compared to before is that in old relics, I could grind fates while queued for something else, or queue for relic mat dungeons and do something else. Bozja requires your full attention and it drags the relic down with it. This is, of course, just my opinion.

[Ashgarth]

And why not make that stuff drop in Bozja?

This is the real question. I happen to like Bozja, and I'm happy that people who dont enjoy it had another way to complete the grinding steps. But why in the actual hell did they completely delete any Bozja-related content from those steps?
Make the fking things drop in CLL or DR at the very least for god's sake.

[Dan4077]

It’s not forced on you, it’s entirely optional content.

Why don’t you just do Eden normal and get the tomestone weapon, it seems more what you’re looking for.

This is such an extremely ignorant comment ALL CONTENT IS OPTIONAL. A cop out excuse for actual criticism from fans from the fan boys that will take anything no matter how poorly executed or designed it is from square. "Please give us more". But when I go to do a required quest for my relic and I get 12 people after waiting an hour and cannot even go in, that is a failed execution and poorly designed content. I can't even attempt or do the content.

So if you did not do it early on well screw you I guess cause it's dead now. And like this guy said as more time passes it will be even MORE dead. It should have been an instance so people could group together. Hell I cant even put up a PF for that many people to come and do it.