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  1. #11
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    If you don't like it you don't have to do it.
    And people aren't which is why Castrum has been empty for a month+
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  2. #12
    Player Reap00's Avatar
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    Riamara Skye
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    Marilith
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    And people aren't which is why Castrum has been empty for a month+
    Castrum is running on all cylinders now that people have to do it to get to the next step for the relic. What happened previously doesn't matter at this point.
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    If we're going to complain, I would say make it about their design models. No use in complaining about this, by the end they will be best-in-slot, and potentially be fancy looking, so really the amount of time invested is more than justified.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 02-04-2021 at 09:37 AM.

  4. #14
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    E4EO's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Samuel Wolcott
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    Leviathan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    The weapon is half the story, you see the bomb ass Judge Magister Armour added in the patch, cool right? Well, let's go over how you dye it below,

    You gotta get augmented Bozjan gear from the southern front, thats over 2000 coins for a single set, and 1000 coins for 1 chest at minimum, that's hell on fcking earth, you earn 1 coin per skirmish and 3 per CE. And dont get your hopes up about castrum, you're likely to fail because noobs didnt watch a guide for months old content and fail a boss.

    There's one more thing, you gotta get parts from the new 48 man savahe raid, 10 pieces of a specific part, 1 augment coffer, more then likely only 1 piece drops per chest, so you would likey be stuck doing this raid for a week nonstop, hell even multiple weeks. And thats when you and the 47 other players learn it, which'll likey take a week or so for a guide to go up and even longer for it to become common practice, or you bash your head against the wall and try to prog it yourself which also sounds like hell on earth.

    Its absolutely insane, and the only reason I'm so upset about it is just because I've wanted Judge Magister Armour in 14 for so long, and when it's added its locked behind one of the worst grinds I can think of in this game, ridiculous.
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  5. #15
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    Vickii's Avatar
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    Elise Marie
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I was always concerned by how easy the relic was (buy it for poetics, do an hour of old fates, run anti tower 6 times) so when everyone else was grabbing every weapon I stuck with a couple.

    Now everyone is freaking out because the relic weapon requires more than an hour to progress?

    You would have hated ARR.
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  6. #16
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Castrum is running on all cylinders now that people have to do it to get to the next step for the relic. What happened previously doesn't matter at this point.
    For the next month or two sure, but once the initial rush is over it'll be back to being dead since most people who want the relic won't have it held hostage by needing to clear the raids.

    The fact that Bozja is dead between patches speaks volumes about the quality of the content they've churned out, and the fact that it's being forced on us now without making improvements to the content itself speaks volumes about their ability to listen to their player base.
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    Watching forum drama be like

  7. #17
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    Vickii's Avatar
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    Elise Marie
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    For the next month or two sure, but once the initial rush is over it'll be back to being dead since most people who want the relic won't have it held hostage by needing to clear the raids.

    The fact that Bozja is dead between patches speaks volumes about the quality of the content they've churned out, and the fact that it's being forced on us now without making improvements to the content itself speaks volumes about their ability to listen to their player base.
    It’s not forced on you, it’s entirely optional content.

    Why don’t you just do Eden normal and get the tomestone weapon, it seems more what you’re looking for.
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  8. #18
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    Server Malfunction
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    Zalera
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    I love the fact that they are using the GOOD FUN 24 man raids. Thank god. Maybe now they will actual freaking pop and I can do Thunder god aagain without begging people to come with me. As for everything else all I will say is.. wasn't the relic grind always grindy? I don't remember any of the past ones being any less grindy.
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  9. #19
    Player
    Vickii's Avatar
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    Elise Marie
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    The problem with the relic is actually that the early steps were far far too easy which gave a lot of people false hope and those people invested and are now understandably disappointed.

    But we’ve never had a relic where every player who logs in now and again has it. It has always carried some big grind and some steps that put people off.

    There’s a lot of people now who have say the anima or zeta, but they didn’t have them when they were current. This will be the same, the requirements will later be heavily nerfed and you can pick it up then if you don’t want to do it now.

    Again, the casual content is normal raids and tomestone gear. Eureka was a grind that not everyone did and that’s fine. It’s optional content and not everyone is going to do everything in the game. But all this whining is begrudging people who actually do want to do it and is quite selfish. Judging from my server a lot of people are happy with the new raid and are working hard on their relic.
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  10. #20
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    There is nothing wrong with the design. The step is designed to fill the alliance raids with players to keep those queues pumping. You get a BiS weapon for your job at the end of the expansion. Seems fair. Also, this is entirely optional. If you don't like it you don't have to do it.
    They didn't need CT in there, that part could have been removed completely. We already get CT almost every blasted AR Roulette, we didn't need more of that location!
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