People who like Bozja/Eureka, I would like your input

[SturmChurro]

I don't disagree, but I feel like this statement is true of all relic weapons anyway. It's not like Zodiac weapons or Anima weapons were designed to be completed in an evening, and Eureka weapons are one heck of a grind. Eureka even threw in a bonus armor grind as well!

Like it or hate it, I don't feel like the long-term grind for this should be a surprise.

I'd actually argue the new Law's Order stuff is a great deal more generous than Eureka; the pieces cost 2 or 3 of the Gold Bozjan Coins, and you can get 3 per week for just running Delubrum Reginae once.

I mean, I know relic grind is supposed to be filler, but I feel like all this is kind of excessive. For the regular armor yeah, the dyable armor variant is another story - which is what I was talking about. For regular armor, I'll probably grab healer and caster, but the others, I may just casually pick up. Like I said most look pretty bad on my au ra. The aiming (iirc) top looks really bad in general. Has a dump truck butt.

[Packetdancer]

I mean, I know relic grind is supposed to be filler, but I feel like all this is kind of excessive. For the regular armor yeah, the dyable armor variant is another story - which is what I was talking about. For regular armor, I'll probably grab healer and caster, but the others, I may just casually pick up. Like I said most look pretty bad on my au ra. The aiming (iirc) top looks really bad in general. Has a dump truck butt.

Fair.

To elaborate, I was thinking that the Elemental Armor was a pretty chonky grind, since you had to pick up the base Elemental Armor in Pyros with a honkload of Pyros crystals (which you therefore could not use on your relic weapon), then augment said armor in Hydatos with Hydatos crystals (which, again, means you couldn't use them for your Hydatos weapon), and then gather materials in the Baldesion Arsenal to finish the upgrades.

In contrast, the costs of the base armor here aren't bad, and the currency you use is not what's shared with the weapon augmentation; the grind to augment is pretty brutal, considering you need to augment the base Bozjan resistance gear, and get the base Law's Order gear, and get the Secrets used to augment it as well. So you'll be at it for A While, but at least you aren't stealing from your weapon's progression to aid armor progression.

But the base Bozjan stuff can't be dyed, where the base Elemental stuff can. So... yeah, if you just want a plain-but-dyeable set for glam (or use in general gameplay, where the Elemental or Bozjan effects gained with augmentation have no meaning), Eureka's definitely less of a grindfest since you can just get the stuff in Pyros and call it a day.

And it sounds like that was what you were aiming for, so from that perspective, I concede the point.