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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba View Post
    Looking at the server merge outburst, it demonstrates that we have difficulty choosing for ourselves.
    Not really. I want to be able to choose whether to move or not. Yet I am forced to move servers and am also forced to lose any friends that are currently on a break.

    That's what most people dislike about the merge imho. Not the fact we have to make a decision. If you look at the worlds forums and not the general trolling section, then you'll see that most servers have already decided where to go in case we won't get plan2.
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    I can see Yoshi-P's perspective some.

    Let the unsubbed players would get another shot at server transfers in 2.0.

    And announcing something a month ahead with chances to transfer multiple times during that period. If someone is going to come back, they'll come back now or just wait for 2.0.
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    I don't think that people were blaming Yoshi... well I can think of one person but that's a different story.
    I think people were against the decision not against the decision maker/s ^_^ - or rather were for the merge, just not the manner in which it was happening.

    We need the merge, I think we can mostly agree on that. I liked seeing people be passionate... it means they love the game and if the love the game, all good things like prosperity and longevity will come.
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    The community, begged, pleaded, then demanded and commanded, for server mergers. Now that they are getting it, they are crying like a bunch of witchy little girls.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morticous View Post
    I bet Yoshi is reading the forums now crying in the corner of his office, sad about the same 50 people who are always on this forums comments. Poor guy.
    No, he is probably going through the names of all the those who demanded server mergers, and cross referencing it with the whine bags who are crying about it like shool girls with a skent knee. In an effort to see that there characters are casualties of a "server glitch" that deletes there character during the merger process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinChuck View Post
    Because you need to be a chef to know what sort of food you enjoy, or even what food is best for you? Walk into McDonald's, "Hey buddy, don't listen to me, just get me what you think is best for me, that's why you're the manager and I'm not"?
    You can't compare food to game design. You wouldn't want movies to be made by the audience either, would you? Of course game are a little different from movies as well, but for the most part the same principle applies. That being said, he should definitely listen to the community - and he obviously does. For some aspects, player feedback is extremely valuable, since even the best game designers don't always know what would make the players happy. But more often than not, people ask for stuff that would ultimately damage the game, because they don't understand the implications.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinChuck View Post
    [...] This is not conducive to happy customers, and the single best argument for is based around a hypothetical "Well, uh, maybe they'll make new, better friends along the line."
    The main idea was to give EU players a chance to get together with players from the same time zone. If they just go with plan ② (A + B - X ⇒A), the server with X would probably end up being underpopulated, because it's not likely that many players switch if they don't have to. So there was a good reason for it, but apparently most people don't care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggs View Post
    Its his game, why does he need your input? After looking at all the "input" that came out after the announcement of a server merge (aka RAGGGGEEEEEE) I don't want him listening to most of the people that post on here and making decisions about the game with it. Have you read what people write on these forums lately? REALLY? Those are the people you want making game decisions. He should do what he feels is right because thats what real leaders do.

    And don't get me wrong, I don't want him listening to me either. Why you ask? Because I don't design games for a living.
    This. So much this.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinChuck View Post
    While I agree with you on the personal attacks thing, remember, we're paying customers (and SE is paying him, as well). We're not children, and he is not there to judge what is "for our own good". This is a transaction, not an issue of parenting.

    Besides that, feel free to explain how this is "vegetables". How is this ultimately good for us? How does this meet any standards set by the Dietary Reference Intake/MMOs in the last five years?
    I've said it before and I'll say it again: When you smack two servers together, you get two distinct communities trying to coexist (sometimes quite unsuccessfully). With option 4 you're creating entirely new, cohesive communities.

    Blanket merges have sucked in every game they've been done in. They are an absolute last resort because of the negative connotations associated with them. If said connotations didn't exist, game studios would perform them more regularly. Option 4 is also a last resort, but something like it hasn't really been done before. With that in mind, I wonder what your basis of comparison is? You don't have one. You're just assuming doom and gloom. Which is all the more reason why you're not qualified to make judgments on game design.
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    Last edited by Sidious; 02-11-2012 at 10:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElexDestruction View Post
    I feel bad for yoshi. He made a decision that he felt as developer (leader) of FF14 was the best one along with his develper team was the right one. People keep saying with the planed server change that they may loose friends. People forget that its their friends decision to choose what ever server that they may choose and that is not to lay the blame on yoshi or developers . It is one thing to say you disagree with the way the merger is happening, but to make comments like in other post about yoshi not carring about the community is just messed up. Do you guys remember what it was like before yoshi took over? We rarely ever got updates or info about the game. Since he has took over he actually listens to are input and keeps us updated. So why you may disagree with merger, think about all the awesome changes and coming changes yoshi has brought to are game. Please post how you feel but be respectful.
    yea made awesome idea's for this game and has really fixed it up... the man is a fucking god!!!! but i do and first and hopefully last tine disagree with the server merge idea he had.

    apart from that hes a genius
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssppiikkeeyy View Post
    yea made awesome idea's for this game and has really fixed it up... the man is a fucking god!!!! but i do and first and hopefully last tine disagree with the server merge idea he had.

    apart from that hes a genius
    What do you mean? He's probably going to with option 2 like all the QQers wanted. As long as I'm not on a dead server, it's not the end of the world IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidious View Post
    What do you mean? He's probably going to with option 2 like all the QQers wanted. As long as I'm not on a dead server, it's not the end of the world IMO.
    i mean i didnt agree with his first idea for sever merge but apart from that the guys is awesome and i do feel bad from his cause of all the people that bitch about everything no matter what he does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinChuck View Post
    Because you need to be a chef to know what sort of food you enjoy, or even what food is best for you? Walk into McDonald's, "Hey buddy, don't listen to me, just get me what you think is best for me, that's why you're the manager and I'm not"?
    Truth to be told, you know EXACTLY what you want, yes. But since you're not a developer yourself you're most probably pathologically unable to EXPRESS that. There's simply things that are beyond your grasp, and beyond mine, when dealing with things you're not fully knowledgeable of. That's where filtering and analyzing player feedback fits, it's trying to figure out exactly what the players want, taking it from what they're saying.

    Like, a person saying "I want to level faster" might actually mean "I don't want to feel frustrated for not having any actual progress done during the little free time I have" and a person saying "I want to level slower" might truly mean "I want the game to last longer since I like it".

    Not saying you're wrong, but you're not fully correct either... Aaaaalso just a minor nitpick? I don't htink i'm being on-topic here
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