why do you get relic upgrade materials from crystal tower?

[ForteNightshade]

Probably because people cried about Eureka and to this day it’s the lowest completed relic.

Except they're just angering the same demographic when the whole point of an alternative method was so people who didn't like the "public dungeon" aspect could still partake in the relic. Forcing them to do Bozja is forcing them to grind up to rank 10 and complete two of the very "public dungeons" they didn't like to begin with. And Castrum has become increasingly harder to do now since no one has any incentive to bother with it.

[Absurdity]

Probably because people cried about Eureka and to this day it’s the lowest completed relic.

Even if people did, this fixes absolutely nothing because you still have to engage with and complete Bozja, that's the exact same as Eureka.


The pessimist in me would say that they originally intended you to be able to complete all of the relic stages outside of it, but then they saw how little interest people actually had in Bozja and how fast the content died. So they now require you to complete it because they want to be able to call it a success.

[Infindox]

Castrum AND the new one actually. I don't think the new one is very new player friendly either, but I think people will be running this one for a decent while yet.

The new one has a reason to run it, at least once a week; you pretty much get a free piece of 510 gear that makes you look like a Judge from XII. As well as the new mount, a minion, and a few other things drop in there. But yeah, I loved the difficulty of the normal dungeon, wasn't too frustrating to me once we learned the patterns, but for more casual players it may prove frustrating.

[Kuroka]

Yup, if you want all the relics it'll be 255 runs of crystal tower, because it's not a guaranteed drop in Bozja it's more efficient if you just spam the one alliance raid over and over.

So our monthly amount of CT runs, i see xD

[Nighthawky2010]

Castrum AND the new one actually. I don't think the new one is very new player friendly either, but I think people will be running this one for a decent while yet.

I'm just level 8 in Bojza...not really invested in it....well there goes my relic run.

[Seraphor]

Which is what I really don't get. Why even give people an alternative way to farm their relics outside Bozja when you're forcing them to basically complete the thing anyway? Might as well scrap the CT grind and increase the drop chance inside Eureka 2.0

I think the intention was always that people would complete the Bozja content anyway, and then the grind for subsequent weapons could be done either way.
They haven't been very consistent or effective in the implementation of that though.

[Nighthawky2010]

It is tied to Bozja though as you can't start the new relic quest unless you've completed the previous Bozja quests which means getting to level 10 in there and doing the Castrum.

well that sucks. Im not really invested in Bozja & only level 8. Got bored with it after the 1st week. Well there goes my next relic step.

[Seraphor]

well that sucks. Im not really invested in Bozja & only level 8. Got bored with it after the 1st week. Well there goes my next relic step.

I was exactly the same with Eureka, in fact I never bothered with anything after Pagos. But Bozja feels better than Eureka in everyway so far.

The story really picks up at rank 10, and Castrum and Denubrae are effectively new alliance raids.

Imagine how hyped everyone would be if this weekend they announced "6.0 is getting 5 Alliance Raids instead of 3" and yet... no one wants to do the 2 extra ones we've got in Shadowbringers...

[Dogempire]

I was exactly the same with Eureka, in fact I never bothered with anything after Pagos. But Bozja feels better than Eureka in everyway so far.

The story really picks up at rank 10, and Castrum and Denubrae are effectively new alliance raids.

Imagine how hyped everyone would be if this weekend they announced "6.0 is getting 5 Alliance Raids instead of 3" and yet... no one wants to do the 2 extra ones we've got in Shadowbringers...

More content is nice, but not when it's locked behind boring fate grinding and having to sit around waiting for it to show up every hour only for a chance to possibly get in and do it.

Call me crazy but I don't see what's so fun about doing grindy content just so I can do more grindy content for a weapon that's probably only marginally better than the stuff from Emerald weapon.

[RyuDragnier]

The real question is why aren't the pieces guaranteed drops in Bozja? If you want this content to live, give it reason to. Yes, these things are guaranteed in CT and the other raids as well. But if you make it guaranteed inside Bozja, people will actually do it since you could possibly get more in less time.