why do you get relic upgrade materials from crystal tower?

[Wolwosh]

I'm confused. They make a new alliance and its fun. Why don't we get like 2 or 3 memories from clearing that? It would keep the content alive. They don't learn at SE... It might be completely dead again in a few weeks like Castrum is.

[Unease_Lemming]

So I'm at the part of the quest where I need to get 18 of two types of memories gotten through FATEs in Gyr Abania / Othard, or HW/SB 24mans.

After 19 fates with 0 drops, I'm gonna go ahead and call this RNG pretty stupid. My only alternative will be to run the raids, which even if I spread them out perfectly, would still require 6 runs of EACH of them.

SE. You make good content in general, I like it. But nothing, absolutely nothing is enjoyable when you have to run it that many times in a row. It gets boring. Who gave this the go-ahead?

I was hoping for "fixed Eureka" with this relic, and instead we went down the route of ARR/HW-esque "spam old content ad nauseam".

[Hank_Hotspur]

Also, the requirement to be the job with the relic to earn memories means there's no way to also level your Blue Mage to 70 at the same time, which lowers the amount of people participating in that right now too.

[Seraphor]

Also, the requirement to be the job with the relic to earn memories means there's no way to also level your Blue Mage to 70 at the same time, which lowers the amount of people participating in that right now too.

Why? It takes 30 minutes to level BLU to 70.

[Hank_Hotspur]

Why? It takes 30 minutes to level BLU to 70.

Because its nice to multitask, I leveled my Blue Mage during the Yo-Kai Watch event and the previous Relic memories farm and it made both feel more rewarding.

[Iscah]

No, next expansion you go to Crystal Basement, it's Crystal Tower but upside down.

We already did that in the Twinning.

[Iscah]

The story really picks up at rank 10, and Castrum and Denubrae are effectively new alliance raids.

Imagine how hyped everyone would be if this weekend they announced "6.0 is getting 5 Alliance Raids instead of 3" and yet... no one wants to do the 2 extra ones we've got in Shadowbringers...

The problem isn't necessarily desire to participate, but ease of access.

Put them where they can end up in the alliance roulette and they'd be far more welcome.

[Hank_Hotspur]

The armor also doesn't make sense, even after finishing the story last time, I did multiple Castrum runs to get coins to get the new armor sets, but now the coins you get from Delubrum can only be turned in for 100 for 1 coin of the actual currency you need to get the gear or doing a weekly quest to get 3. So the new raid is hard and the rewards such a pittance it pretty much makes it only feasible to just hope to complete it once a week until you get tired of doing it or pulled away from whatever the next patch/expansion has to offer.

[Arkevorkhat]

I did 3 ARR relics pre nerf, like 4 or 5 heavensward ones pre nerf. Trust me, these see the easiest relics have ever been.


People just want to be able to do nothing and get good gear

No, we want to be pushed towards interesting, current content. The Crystal Tower raid series isn't relevant anymore, it's already required for all current content, why make it required twice for the new relics.
SE hasn't made Crystal Tower an option for completing the relics, they've made it the intended method.

[Dogempire]

I did 3 ARR relics pre nerf, like 4 or 5 heavensward ones pre nerf. Trust me, these see the easiest relics have ever been.


People just want to be able to do nothing and get good gear

A 515 weapon means nothing to me, I've already cleared Emerald weapon EX and I'm currently sitting on a 520 weapon that'll probably get upgraded to a 530 within the next few weeks depending on loot priority.

What I'm actually upset about is that any and all future relic steps are held hostage by content that basically has a ticking doom debuff on its lifespan. I have no interest in Bozja but I do have interest in using the relic weapons as glamour items, and considering that it's literally day 1 of the new patch and people are still having trouble filling up Castrum instances, I don't have much faith in the amount of time I have to do the chore of grinding up to 10 mettle then flipping a coin on whether or not the group will actually be capable of clearing