I appear to have already missed the boat on bozja

[Deceptus]

Exp (mettle) scales. It doesn't take that long. Do CE's and FATEs in zone 3/2. I was down 130k mettle this morning (level 15) got it back in about an hour, or an hour and a half. Took a bit longer because CEs weren't happening too often in that instance.

Took me about a month of casually doing it and I'm still only rank 14. And simply saying "Do zones 2 and 3" isn't realistic when you consider the fates pop based on zone population.

If CE's are funneling everyone into zone 1, then zone 1 FATES are going to be popping. I've seen zone three completely empty, 1 fate in zone two and 2 or 3 in zone 1 more than I'd like to count. This is why the FATES in any zone should give the same exp.

Because the players aren't in any way in direct control of the FATES.

Edit: Went in today and it literally happened again.

[Vickii]

I think the choice is meant to be between:

1. Play Bozja and make progress in Bozja - earning mettle and coins - alongside earning memories.

2. Efficiently gather memories via FATEs but miss out on making progress in Bozja.

Half-and-half on two type of progress or all-in on the other.

It seems to me that the best path would be to do Bozja first (to whatever rank is ultimately required for progress, or using it to level classes) then use FATEs to earn the remainder of the memories you need.

This I think is the intention.. although I’d say the fates weren’t needed at all personally but I think they wanted to drive participation in those zones and this was an easy way to do so.

But I levelled a relic entirely in bozja maybe two hours after I capped out the rank there. So if you’re doing Bozja anyway you may as well just do it all there.

For repeated relics when you have what you need from bozja though, it’s too inefficient in comparison.

[Greyhawk]

I'm on my third relic and one specific memory fragment is NOT dropping for me at all in Bozja, so I have to go out and get it in world FATEs. I think I'm at Rank 11 or 12, but it got to the point I was so frustrated with being there, I didn't go back. I still have to farm about 150 clusters still, so I might try again. But if it's turning out to be like it was, I'm never going back. It's just a waste of time for me if I can't get the memory fragment I need.

[SturmChurro]

Took me about a month of casually doing it and I'm still only rank 14. And simply saying "Do zones 2 and 3" isn't realistic when you consider the fates pop based on zone population.

If CE's are funneling everyone into zone 1, then zone 1 FATES are going to be popping. I've seen zone three completely empty, 1 fate in zone two and 2 or 3 in zone 1 more than I'd like to count. This is why the FATES in any zone should give the same exp.

Because the players aren't in any way in direct control of the FATES.

Edit: Went in today and it literally happened again.

Yeah, optimally, you go to zone 3. Turn in 7, leave. If there is a FATE in zone 2 do that one, a new zone 3 FATE should now pop, go do that one. You don't even need to stay for the entire duration, just hit it enough to get gold and leave. Also, you seem to be on primal. I am as well. I can tell you when I go into bozja, I almost never do FATEs in zone 1. I alternate between zone 3/2. Prioritizing 3. I was in bozja for 3 hours this morning from around 6 am EST. I barely did any FATEs in zone 1 (finishing PLD). If you are doing zone 1 FATEs for mettle - you are wasting your time.

If you don't like doing FATEs you can also just semi-afk in base, and wait for CEs to pop. I have gotten 100k mettle back doing that as well, more than once.

I can wait to take a screenshot with no FATEs up at all and post it here too. You wait at an aetheryte for a zone 3 FATE to pop and go there. I am being serious about that too. Don't waste your time with zone 1 FATEs. In the time it would take to travel and do those FATEs aside from the ones near base - and even then, you could miss out on a zone 3 or zone 2 FATE, or more. It's not worth it. It is literally better off waiting a minute at an aetheryte for one to pop.

[Deceptus]

I can wait to take a screenshot with no FATEs up at all and post it here too. You wait at an aetheryte for a zone 3 FATE to pop and go there. I am being serious about that too. Don't waste your time with zone 1 FATEs. In the time it would take to travel and do those FATEs aside from the ones near base - and even then, you could miss out on a zone 3 or zone 2 FATE, or more. It's not worth it. It is literally better off waiting a minute at an aetheryte for one to pop.

Are you? Those 3 fates at the bottom are worth one fate up top. And as you can see there was no middle and one top one. I had already hit my minimum so I moved.

I mean, if you want to be lazy and afk your way to Rank 15, that's on you but I play a game to play it, not sit there and be bored.

[SturmChurro]

Are you? Those 3 fates at the bottom are worth one fate up top. And as you can see there was no middle and one top one. I had already hit my minimum so I moved.

I mean, if you want to be lazy and afk your way to Rank 15, that's on you but I play a game to play it, not sit there and be bored.

Three FATEs that you won't necessarily get to in time to get gold, for one. And two how many zone 3 or zone 2 FATEs could or would pop in the meantime. Using this screenshot, I could go up turn in 7, go back down do the FATE near Olana's stand, go back up do a zone 3 FATE, or a zone 2 FATE. Alternatively, you can AOE that FATE near Olana's stand a couple times (on tank) enough for gold, and travel to camp steva to turn in 7 - but just that one near the aetheryte, the others are a waste of time. Trust me, I play the game. When I afk, it's because I am doing other stuff in the background, usually in another tab. I hear when the CE sound goes off and I register. You seem to be set in your ways though, so what can you do. I'm not gonna "compel" you to change.

No, I am not afking to only do zone 3/2 FATEs. Usually I have to rush to zone 3 FATEs otherwise I won't get there in time and get no gold. It's a constant back and forth between these zones. Almost no downtime. A lot of the time I don't even have time to make it back to base and open lockboxes or whatever, because I need to keep moving to get golds, as many golds as I can. I also do it solo, I don't bother with FATE parties.

[RokkuEkkusu]

Well, if I read the 5.45 patch notes right, Castrum Lacus Litore is gonna get some more active action because it is probably gonna need to be completed start the 5.45 relic steps. In addition, there may be additional rewards from the place that they hopefully added too.

[VirusChris]

I'm not sure I like that the start of the 5.45 Relic/Resistance is locked behind Bozja (at least until the halfway point) and I'm like Rank 8 so it's going to be a while for me to do Bozja. I don't really do it much as I like collecting the memories outside of Bozja for its 100% drop rate for Gold Medals. I got both my NIN and PLD done and working on my WHM next along with collecting all of the other memories for every weapon.

It feels like a dirty move by SE to keep Bozja relevant. I didn't like the Relics tied to Eurek, because of how ridiculous the drop rates were in in that instance and having a dedicated zone for Relics seems like a Relic Killer to me.

[Conando]

Yeah...apparently they didn’t learn from Eureka. Tying the next step of the relic to Bozja isn’t going to make people do Bozja; they’ll just stop doing the relic like they did with Eureka.

[VirusChris]

I'm going to try. I want to see the Story of Bozja, but I want to finish my Relic. I've done so for every Expansion so far (at least one of them, mainly the NIN), but this is getting annoying.

I sure hope 6.0 does not do this again. I'm not that good at Savage unless unsync'd with my FC and I dislike all the memory game involved.