What things annoy you?

[MilkieTea]

People who claim this game is toxic yet in the same breath espouse toxicity.

[Shougun]

People who claim this game is toxic yet in the same breath espouse toxicity.

There is a fascinating, in some dark funny way, relationship between an obsession with acceptance and lack of self's ability for acceptance lol. Which isn't to say just because someone has a point that it's entirely wrong just because there are flaws- I think most bad ideas, or at least good lies, have truth in them, that's what makes them believable / grounded. So often bad, but popular, points still have something in them worth paying attention to.

I often see people 11/10 manipulate and willfully misunderstand the paradox of tolerance while at the same time entirely missing the ironic opportunity for it to be used in similar format against them if they were so willing to fly past the entire quote, rather people who share it almost always use the partial as an opportunity to be intolerant even in situations that the paradox writer itself listed as times not to be intolerant lol.

Like when you watch people who are not in power asking for freedom and peace to be left as is but once in power near immediately that discussion dies and so too any sense of self-awareness as it's "it's my time now" - behaving akin to the dictatorship traits they claimed to be against moments ago (literal or just sometimes claimed).

[MilkieTea]

There is a fascinating, in some dark funny way, relationship between an obsession with acceptance and lack of self's ability for acceptance lol. Which isn't to say just because someone has a point that it's entirely wrong just because there are flaws- I think most bad ideas, or at least good lies, have truth in them, that's what makes them believable / grounded. So often bad, but popular, points still have something in them worth paying attention to.

I often see people 11/10 manipulate and willfully misunderstand the paradox of tolerance while at the same time entirely missing the ironic opportunity for it to be used in similar format against them if they were so willing to fly past the entire quote, rather people who share it almost always use the partial as an opportunity to be intolerant even in situations that the paradox writer itself listed as times not to be intolerant lol.

Like when you watch people who are not in power asking for freedom and peace to be left as is but once in power near immediately that discussion dies and so too any sense of self-awareness as it's "it's my time now" - behaving akin to the dictatorship traits they claimed to be against moments ago (literal or just sometimes claimed).

This is very interesting and is flying way over my head I am *so* sorry. I'm glad it's here for others to read and take in, but I'm dumb as rocks.

It's more the fact that this community tries to act like it's "great" (not toxic), as if.

Oh definitely! It's just hilarious (in the most sarcastic way imaginable) when people complain about the games toxicity while being extremely toxic themselves, as if theyre not part of the problem or as if they don't share the same traits.

[SturmChurro]

People who claim this game is toxic yet in the same breath espouse toxicity.

It's more the fact that this community tries to act like it's "great" (not toxic), as if.

[Mahoukenshi]

People who claim this game is toxic yet in the same breath espouse toxicity.

I figure that's because many consider mostly/only "toxic raiders" as toxcity, while the other side of the spectrum (the whole and undefined range of "casual" toxcity) is blissfully or intentionally ignored or seen as less of a problem.

[MilkieTea]

I figure that's because many consider mostly/only "toxic raiders" as toxcity, while the other side of the spectrum (the whole and undefined range of "casual" toxcity) is blissfully or intentionally ignored or seen as less of a problem.

Yep. Either they're going "People have to play exactly how I like, which means wall-to-wall-to-wallx5 pulls for tanks, DPS having 100% perfect rotations, and healers doing the most DPS and healing everyone, but if DPS is doing less DPS than the healer then DPS is doign things wrong, but if Healer doesn't have the most DPS then healer is healing wrong, our runs have to be 10 minutes or less, it's someone elses fault if we wipe!" or "I want everything to be super easy, I can't personally do halatali and that's the hardest dungeon I KNOW! I wish we didn't have to play the content at all... you don't pay my sub! i just wanna walk around!" and I've yet to see an inbetween

[Rilifane]

Yep. Either they're going "People have to play exactly how I like, which means wall-to-wall-to-wallx5 pulls for tanks, DPS having 100% perfect rotations, and healers doing the most DPS and healing everyone, but if DPS is doing less DPS than the healer then DPS is doign things wrong, but if Healer doesn't have the most DPS then healer is healing wrong, our runs have to be 10 minutes or less, it's someone elses fault if we wipe!" or "I want everything to be super easy, I can't personally do halatali and that's the hardest dungeon I KNOW! I wish we didn't have to play the content at all... you don't pay my sub! i just wanna walk around!" and I've yet to see an inbetween

The inbetween for me are players that are decent enough at what they do, not terribly interested in endgame and generally fairly open to criticism or discussions but with an intense passion for shitting on other games as if FFXIV is the Holy Grail of all MMOs and everything else is garbage.
The problem with them is that they subconsciously most likely know that FFXIV has flaws but refuse to see them and if they do, they try to sell it as charming, part of FFXIV and "something different". They quickly put down players offering feedback and criticism about the game itself, sometimes to the point of getting really personal and often try to shut down discussions or derail them into "at least it's sO mUcH bEttEr than this other game".
People who usually seem reasonable and nice enough can get pretty vile and toxic within a moment.
The classic "just go play this other game if you dare to not like something here.... even if it's a good point and could be improved".

[KaTnIs]

- That one female miqo'te voice
- People left the dungeon etc after a SINGLE wipe
- toxic players
- tanks who can't not wait, when others are in a cutscene

[Fellgon]

whats annoys me its server get off wen im in the climax of dungeon.