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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
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    Thank you for the clarification, and for all the helpful info. It's coming at the perfect time because I'm actually about to get into gardening lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madbunny View Post
    Oh the joy of every RMT in the game. Then you will have people who have RL money just buying GIL for the rent instead of farming.


    In short:
    - for anyone who doesnt have RL money but have a job he is pretty much f*ed
    - for players who have RL money to spend on a game it will change nothing
    - the ones with no job and a lot of time (usually kids) they will farm
    ... and RMT will probably start buying RL houses with the earned money.


    So how do you see this system as fair?
    Maybe this person (not unlike a number of the North American Square-Enix Community Team, given who they've supported over the years) actually believes RMT is a necessary part of the game and should be embraced and made necessary for elite content.

    (Including player and FC housing as "elite content".)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrestlefire769 View Post
    RMT is a necessary part of the game
    Thats partially true. All those RMT players pay the subscription and many players believe that is the (main) reason why every company behind a successful online game are reluctant to ban RMT-ers. Well at least not in numbers they should be banned. The only exception that i know was GuildWars (the first one) as it was without monthly subscription and man... numbers of banned people were astonishing.
    Back to the subject, RMT have more than enough reason to exist and no need to fuel that reason even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madbunny View Post
    Thats partially true. All those RMT players pay the subscription and many players believe that is the (main) reason why every company behind a successful online game are reluctant to ban RMT-ers. Well at least not in numbers they should be banned. The only exception that i know was GuildWars (the first one) as it was without monthly subscription and man... numbers of banned people were astonishing.

    Back to the subject, RMT have more than enough reason to exist and no need to fuel that reason even more.
    This is where it starts getting a little sticky. It's clear that there is a significant portion (not necessarily in number, but necessarily in CLOUT) of the game community (at least outside of Japan -- and I'd be interested to find out if the JP servers are having the same camping of housing lots the NA and EU servers are having) who is fully embracing of RMT and other cheating mechanisms. At that point, one has to question, especially if you are right in any portion of RMT being a necessary part of the game, the presence of the Special Task Force.

    To me, if Square-Enix is unwilling to actually deal with the bot and RMT problem (and this is going to include getting Legal into the countries where these companies work), they then need to assume that the only real way to do that content is to pay for it with real money -- at which point, welcome to all future housing on the Mog Station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrestlefire769 View Post
    This is where it starts getting a little sticky. It's clear that there is a significant portion (not necessarily in number, but necessarily in CLOUT) of the game community (at least outside of Japan -- and I'd be interested to find out if the JP servers are having the same camping of housing lots the NA and EU servers are having) who is fully embracing of RMT and other cheating mechanisms. At that point, one has to question, especially if you are right in any portion of RMT being a necessary part of the game, the presence of the Special Task Force.

    To me, if Square-Enix is unwilling to actually deal with the bot and RMT problem (and this is going to include getting Legal into the countries where these companies work), they then need to assume that the only real way to do that content is to pay for it with real money -- at which point, welcome to all future housing on the Mog Station.
    Restrict to 3 clicks per day, per plot, which means would make it harder for bots and autoclickers and more to acquire houses using unfair advantages towards others.

    Also spam/flood of using same function over and over again, technically also is a violation of the ToS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Restrict to 3 clicks per day, per plot, which means would make it harder for bots and autoclickers and more to acquire houses using unfair advantages towards others.

    Also spam/flood of using same function over and over again, technically also is a violation of the ToS.
    Their entire operation is a violation of the ToS. There's a problem though: There's clearly a portion of the community which actively supports them -- and not all of them are gilbuyers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrestlefire769 View Post
    Their entire operation is a violation of the ToS. There's a problem though: There's clearly a portion of the community which actively supports them -- and not all of them are gilbuyers.
    Restrict to 3 clicks a day, I got a new neighbor myself... that just bought his house when the time ran out, there was not people flocking it or anything, so it is a myth, it is because people want desired places I guess like Shirogane, which really is cramped and boring compared to the 3 others, got myself house plot 15 in the mist, have had it for years.... and before that plot 30 and before that plot 22....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Restrict to 3 clicks a day, I got a new neighbor myself... that just bought his house when the time ran out, there was not people flocking it or anything, so it is a myth, it is because people want desired places I guess like Shirogane, which really is cramped and boring compared to the 3 others, got myself house plot 15 in the mist, have had it for years.... and before that plot 30 and before that plot 22....
    Good luck. I think you'd be better off just putting housing on the Mog Station.

    You're already seeing significant degradation of play on some servers (mine being one), almost-certainly from botters-scripters.
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