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    Ftail's Avatar
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    Lilac Blackthorne
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenky View Post
    1. Nobody is forcing you to pick spamming a placard over sleeping or doing anything more 'productive'. You are willingly taking that path, so cool it with the blame-game.
    I’ve never liked this argument, reminds me too much of people who defend loot boxes. “If you don’t like loot boxes don’t buy them, no one is forcing you to buy loot boxes.”
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    I’ve never liked this argument, reminds me too much of people who defend loot boxes. “If you don’t like loot boxes don’t buy them, no one is forcing you to buy loot boxes.”
    The difference is that if you don't engage with loot boxes you don't get the loot.
    Here, there are many ways to approach getting a house other than clicking a placard instead of sleeping.
    Choosing to not click for hours doesn't lock you out of the content the way choosing to not buying a loot box does.
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    Aaliza Rysta
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    Mateus
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    The difference is that if you don't engage with loot boxes you don't get the loot.
    Here, there are many ways to approach getting a house other than clicking a placard instead of sleeping.
    Choosing to not click for hours doesn't lock you out of the content the way choosing to not buying a loot box does.
    How does one get a house in this game without clicking on a placard for hours? Genuinely curious.
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Leviathan
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aaran View Post
    How does one get a house in this game without clicking on a placard for hours? Genuinely curious.
    Most of get our at every new ward release
    Sleep then wake up before sever is back up
    Paste password and get into Q
    Never go for so called dream plot
    Plan our route to our plot of choice
    Park toon not inside major city and practice our travel speed
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    Reopard Will
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    Ridill
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    PGL Lv 20
    Quote Originally Posted by Aaran View Post
    How does one get a house in this game without clicking on a placard for hours? Genuinely curious.
    I got mine literally with 2 clicks on a placard when the new wards opened up back in 5.3. Mind you I was on a 400+ queue before I was able to get in and it was pretty much a ghost town still when I got into the ward. Just plan ahead and play smart when the new wards come out
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    Stolen Lotus
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    Tonberry
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanie View Post
    I got mine literally with 2 clicks on a placard when the new wards opened up back in 5.3. Mind you I was on a 400+ queue before I was able to get in and it was pretty much a ghost town still when I got into the ward. Just plan ahead and play smart when the new wards come out
    I had a similar experience on Tonberry, shortly after the great exodus of OCE players to Materia. A great many plots became vacant at once, the placard I wanted was available, and not another soul around.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    People need to stop pushing the blame onto others for their poor personal decisions. If you don't want to have to camp, don't do it. Houses are not required to play the game. They're merely something you want. You can pop into a ward, click the placard to see if you get lucky then leave. You do not have to stay.

    SE doesn't need to stick houses on mogstation. They need to implement a proper instanced housing system like many other MMOs have done successfully so that every player who wants a house can get one.

    We don't know what Ishgard housing is going to be yet. SE has told us nothing other than it will be coming.

    While I agree that relocation needs a longer cooldown than 5 minutes, it doesn't need to be 6 months. Make it the same as the demo timer for consistency - 45 days. It also doesn't need to be more expensive. Player are already effectively paying twice when they relocate since 30% of the old plot's minimum value doesn't amount to much.

    There doesn't need to be an increase to house activity, and I'm saying that as someone who visits both my personal and FC houses multiple times daily. Some people actually have lives that obstruct their ability to play for a few weeks in a row (business trips and the like) even though the majority of the year they are active players logging in multiple times a week. The 45 day demo timer adequately allows for those who have occasional need to take breaks from the game. If your goal is to get houses out of the hands of players who aren't actively using them, attach a monthly property tax. People who aren't using something generally aren't inclined to keep paying for it month after month.

    Wards will always be dead. I hate to break it to everyone who has dreams of active neighborhoods but it's just not going to happen. The majority of the content that draws people to the game does not happen in the wards, and there's no reason to be in the ward most of the time except as a waypoint as you're trying to get into the instanced interior of your house. There are not enough houses in a ward to generate the sort of traffic that will make them feel active. There is no point in trying to pretend it is going to be different short of SE removing all other content from the game so only housing exists.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    I’ve never liked this argument, reminds me too much of people who defend loot boxes. “If you don’t like loot boxes don’t buy them, no one is forcing you to buy loot boxes.”
    That's not a defense of loot boxes. That's telling people to get smart and stop buying them. It's not like the items in them are needed to play the game most of the time, and on the occasions they are the intelligent person quits and picks another game to play.

    Again, people need to take responsibility for their own poor personal decisions instead of pushing the blame on others. If they can't control themselves, then they need to take courses to learn how to do so.
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Zodiark
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    Archer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    People need to stop pushing the blame onto others for their poor personal decisions. If you don't want to have to camp, don't do it. Houses are not required to play the game. They're merely something you want. You can pop into a ward, click the placard to see if you get lucky then leave. You do not have to stay.
    It's not the nicest thing to say, but how I see it generally is if videogame is making you angry and disappointed, makes you cry and wreck your sanity and wrist too... it is time to take a break. Be it with crafting, raiding, shitposting in Limsa or pining for house.
    It is not worth it.
    Most important things in life are free.
    Second most important cost pretty penny, be it real or videogame money. But second most important things are secondary. You see?
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