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  1. #1
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    Aniya_Estlihn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Even just that much (plus some degree of unpacking what was shown in it) would be a pretty major announcement.
    It would be, yes, but in that case there'd be no need for him to say its a significant amount when it would typically be what we'd expect from a fanfest. More or less, I believe he's just telling us they're going to make up for cancelling the fanfests in an information blowout.

    Also in terms of information going in 5.0, we had none before the fanfests.

    First Fanfest:
    -Shadowbringers reveal
    -first part of the trailer, only includes up to Thancred
    -consolidation of MP and TP
    -multiple new jobs
    -teased a single new race
    -ishgard restoration
    -trusts teased
    -new game plus
    -Nu Mou (I think were revealed here?)
    -world visit + world restructuring
    -Blue Mage

    Second Fanfest:
    -extended trailer, shows Urianger and Yshtola (it excluded Eulmore and Crystarium)
    -release date
    -GNB
    -Rak'tika and Il Mheg
    -announced extensive battle system changes
    -removal of TP
    -nine dungeons
    -raid but didn't name it
    -Ishgard Restoration
    -Trusts revealed
    -YoRha
    -Pixies
    -Titania
    -Finished with Viera
    -collectors edition

    Third Fanfest:
    -full trailer, revealed the First
    -Dancer
    -Crystarium, Eulmore, Lakeland
    -teaser images for Hominster, Dohn Mehg and The Ravel
    -Eden
    -Gaia + Nomura collab
    -Dwarves
    -Hrothgar
    -Sin Eaters
    -Innocence

    It should be noted the trailer was split into three parts, not two like most claim, and Eden was meant to be revealed in the second Fan fest, but they couldn't do so due to the assets not being available.
    I had to scrounge up articles to figure out the order, but some others contradicted one another so it may not be completely accurate.
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    Last edited by Aniya_Estlihn; 01-26-2021 at 03:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniya_Estlihn View Post
    snip
    you're a great person for collating this info
    given 1 and 2 were cancelled, this means we can safely guarentee the event will have the following

    trailer, or at least part of it+release date
    battle system changes< this is where the stat squish will be if there is one
    new job(s) tease with a small bit on current jobs OR reveal of new job(s)
    update for older content (2.1-2.55 condense likely)
    character creation updates in some form, either missing gender of viera, or hrothgar or both
    reveal of duties
    reveal of most zones
    at least 1 beast tribe
    collectors edition
    key npcs from new expansion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    we can safely guarentee the event will have the following
    ...
    character creation updates in some form, either missing gender of viera, or hrothgar or both
    Don't take that as a fact until it is. Yoshida has been clear in writing that it may never be able to happen, even if they want to.

    You can be hopeful that it might come someday, but don't keep expecting it around the next bend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Don't take that as a fact until it is. Yoshida has been clear in writing that it may never be able to happen, even if they want to.

    You can be hopeful that it might come someday, but don't keep expecting it around the next bend.
    They'll do something since not doing anything will lead to major backlash yoshida will want to avoid. They are signs something is happening with hrothgar as the npcs in bozja get to have hair/face combos that aren't allowed to the player.

    Yoshida's habit of hiding backlash through giving a consolation and ignoring concerns rather than addressing the problems point to something along that line. He's also been known to be incorrect, or have his own team go behind his back for things

    You may draw your own conclusions given what evidence we have. I personally expect that something about the in beta races will happen, but whatever it is, it won't be completing them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    They'll do something since not doing anything will lead to major backlash yoshida will want to avoid. They are signs something is happening with hrothgar as the npcs in bozja get to have hair/face combos that aren't allowed to the player.
    I wouldn't take that as a guarantee of anything. Yugiri has had a face/horn combo unavailable to players since she was first unmasked back in 2.55.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    You may draw your own conclusions given what evidence we have. I personally expect that something about the in beta races will happen, but whatever it is, it won't be completing them
    Then why did you put "character creation updates for the missing genders" on your list of "safely guaranteeable" things to be announced?



    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    They'll do something since not doing anything will lead to major backlash yoshida will want to avoid. They are signs something is happening with hrothgar as the npcs in bozja get to have hair/face combos that aren't allowed to the player.
    As Mollusk pointed out, the game developers can do stuff with the characters that we simply don't have access to. They can add custom faces or hairstyles that aren't in the list.

    As for "they must do it to avoid backlash because they don't want that"? They get backlash constantly for all kinds of things. They've weathered the response over Hrothgar and Viera working as advertised for ages, regardless of whether they should have done it or not. (And it should be pointed out that advertisement talked up the great and unique ways they would be customisable instead.)

    There is no guarantee that they will act just to avoid backlash because it already happened, and they have not yet acted.
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