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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I'm still so salty a 'better version' of this wasn't their starting gear, that way they could've had actual animal feet without sacrificing anything





    I doubt that'd be fair, specially since Viera and Hroth have been outright neglected so far, pandemic aside [not to mention potential coding issues]. I think either they'd be just as limited, or, more optimistically, the former are getting an update, but that would be considerably more work. The least they could do though, is make Minfilia, Y'shtola, Lightning and Aymeric's hair available for Viera, since only those 4 involve real money.
    Yeah, Hrothgar starter gear is pretty shat.

    And I really don't think they care about "fair". Nothing about Viera or Hrothgar as is is close to "fair". Hell, they don't even treat the humans "fair" (As in Meddie males have 6 faces, Meddie Females 5 and Highlanders 4 for both genders and the males don't even get eyebrows).

    I think they care far more about bringing their vision to light and pleasing people tbh. That logic pretty much explains everything they do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Well we are talking about Intelligent Bi-pedal Lions here, so said Manes can be controlled to at least an extent.

    The only limitation is anybody thinking that SE or a dev is gonna be 100% realistic to the IRL counterpart that not even a shred of fantasy will be applied.
    I mean, tell that to YP cause it's sure not the way it appears in game.

    They can't style their Manes beyond some added locks in the face features option, they can't have highlights, they can't share the types of manes of other faces and they can't shave it off like Roe or Highlanders.
    It's not a thing they can control or play with, it's legit just treated as "lion manes, rawr!". And the only appearance of the females we have just made them bald as 1 would assume from a female lion ... no random made up manes, just straight up bald like a reg cat lady.

    Anything beyond what we have seen is an assumption, be it my main assumption that they will have interchangeable racial hair styles (via "new lore" saying that the females make wigs for themselves or just have manageable hair or w/e) or the assumption that the devs took "lion manes" to heart so fully yet will disregard the inherent sexual dimorphism of the animal simply to push the same feature on females.

    Always option 3 ... females just don't have hair or manes. That they're just all bald like in the art shows us but because they don't have to deal with manes they can wear hats and also have "full body fur patterns".

    If your real grievance here is the Gear Options for the head, nobody disagrees that it sucks, but the hair isn't the issue, its the shape of the head. Simple things like glasses and circlets dont require much (Although some things need placement adjustments) but hats and helms will be an issue because up till now all gear was designed for Humanoid faces
    The hair is a major issue in more ways than 1. Their head shape doesn't stop them from wearing hats as seen with in game hoods and the fact that you can plop a hat on them easy with a mod, their FACE stops them from wearing open face helms though and their manes being a CC option that the devs don't want to take away stops hats.
    Devs seem to have a design principle of "It HAS to cover up the mane for Hrothgar males to wear it" when it comes to larger head gear which is why bucket helms that cover the face are acceptable, hoods are acceptable but hats are not.

    I mean, I'm normally anti-mods as an argument BUT I have found many examples of mods with Hrothgar wearing hats with no problem because the shape of their head (not face, the head) isn't very different from other races, it's round. The problem seems to be that SE legit doesn't want to turn off manes unless the head id fully covered and they don't want to make hat-mane models.

    Fantasia to change the hair im sure is a design oversight and probably not intended originally. I do believe and have hopes this will be addressed and changed next Expansion along with many other things.
    There was no oversight in this, they made each face to have 2 manes and gave each head a "face feature" to add to the mane. It was a strange ass core design decision.

    All they would have to do to make manes fit all the faces is make the ears and foreheads match as these 2 things affect the hairline.
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    Last edited by reivaxe; 01-25-2021 at 10:12 AM.