Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
I think this depends on which server/world you're on and which class you picked by luck... Some places like Zalera was really easy-going, while others may require somewhere closer to "killing yourself". On the other hand, DoL is really ridiculous. One can spend like an hour in Diadem, and yet you can get only about 800 skyward points. WHY? Why torture DoL?! Why 10 pieces of ores can only be converted to 1 approved ore? It makes absolutely no sense! 1 piece of ore should be converted to 1 piece of approved ore. The skyward points earned by DoL needs to be... NOT doubled, NOT tripled... but 10 folds more!!!!
Not sure if you understand how DoL points work. The turnin is 1:1, but you can only turn in sets of 5, which isn't a big deal since you gather from nodes in sets of 5 as well. Each set of 5 artisanal mats gives you 3 scrips and 13 points, with weather node mats give a slightly higher payout. Overall the payout is fine, the only thing I would change is make weather node mats worth much more since as it stands they are worth almost the same and that makes them not even worth breaking away from your route to get them.

Typically, even a mostly afk youtube watching gatherer can bang out 1200-1500 mats per hour, with optimal gathering strats maybe getting as much as 2000 per hour. Just to make sure nothing has changed since the last time I gathered before 5.41 (was fishing this time), I just spent an hour gathering while I typed this and watched a youtube video ranking One Piece openings. I got 1690 artisanal mats and about 600 regular level 80 mats for a total of 6147 points in one hour. So not sure how you're getting only 800, that is almost criminally inefficient and a sure sign something is being done very wrong.

As far as the rankings go, if you're only goal is to be in top 12, you only need to spend a few hours, for one day, and that will usually give you enough points to be on any of the top 12 boards for any of the crafters, assuming you know how to do expert crafts. If you're not that great, double it to two days and even a terrible crafter should still be in the top twelve. most top 12's for crafters were only around 250k points, some MUCH less. Assuming you average 1000 points per turnin, that's only 250 turnins, which can be done in a few hours of crafting. If you are not great at expert crafts and your average is only 500, that's still only 500 turnins, which spread across a couple days is no big deal, and spread across ten is super casual and achievable for anyone no matter what else they have going on.

Gathering requires a bit more time committment but the tradeoff is it is much easier to just pick up and do, and you can easily do other things while you're at it. As far as fishing goes, just doing it 5-6 hours a day for all ten days will get you around 500k points, which will put you in most top 12's. Mining and botany require more time investment since there are even more of a pure grind, but 8 hours a day for 10 days will see just about anyone into the top 12. 8 hours a day is alot, but most people who play the game in any serious sort of way probably already put those kinds of hours into the game in general anyways. It's just a matter of shifting priorities for ten days.

As far as botting goes, it exists. That's about it. It is not as common as people think, and I am willing to bet money not a single #1 on any server was a bot. There were bots in the rankings absolutely, but a dedicated player always beats out a bot. Always.

If you really wanted top 12, you could get it, no matter what excuses you may give. I got #1 and #3 Fisher on the last two rankings while working a full time job. I got #1 Fish this time AND ranked #4 in the entire world when I took time off and didn't have a job holding me back. I did not sacrifice my health or sleep to do it. I slept 3-4 hours per day ( my normal sleep is only 5-6 hours to begin with), even more on a couple days (which is what cost me #1 in the world), and I felt fine during the competition and I feel fine now. You have time to eat, drink, see your family and whatever else and still compete, even at the highest levels. People citing health concerns overblow the actual toll something like this takes on a healthy person. If you are unhealthy in general, this isn't a good thing to do, but if you are in good health and sound mind, 19-20 hours of monotony and 4 hours of sleep is not really anything the human body or mind can't handle, at least for a short time like 10 days. If people didn't eat, drink, whatever, that was totally unnecessary for whatever goal they might have shooting for in this competition and they have no one to blame but themselves for their own irresponsibility.