Discussion & Suggestions: What do you think of FFXIV economy?

[Dragonkat]

I was speaking of how players react to botting in online games. As long as those bots don't have a significant negative impact on the player, the bots aren't enough to get players to quit. Their simple existence is generally not enough to create that significant impact.

The impact comes when bots block players from completing content

I think I'd like to personally address that last sentence. Let's talk about content. I ground out today my second Dragonsong Tool. I'm starting in on the next phases of gobbie goo. Primary because i'm trying to help a friend by getting enough stats to craft top tier gear for him. Since a full crafter set with overmelds still can't reach that insanely high control cap for exarchic.

But I'd like to ask. What incentive do I have to work my ass off for those tools, why should I work to become one of the top crafters on my server. Why should I try to ply my goods and provide them to players who need it. When all the content I enjoy can be undercut in seconds by a ******* BOT?!

It's not about the gil and the entitled attitude of "if it doesn't hurt me what's the big deal?" while thinking it's about the greed shows just how little you understand the actual problem. Speaking as someone who will gleefully tank a market on purpose because I hate under cutters that much?

It's about content.

And the market is part of that. You talk about bots blocking objectives? I watched today not one, but three different bots not only undercut my sales but undercut each other constantly for hours. I managed to bring the 300K ase rings of crafting on Byrn down to 70K before the three I casually made for a test sold. Which to be blunt I consider a fair price, trying to pay 300K if you aren't a crafter yourself is stupid, (the paradox of needing to craft to make money for items, at which point why by them when you can make them yourself) but that and inflation is a whole other issue.

Regardless I had to sit there and waste a lot of time checking the MB every couple minutes till I finally found the floor these bots were programmed at. So I ask you. How is THAT any different from people jumping up and down in front of a quest objective? It's still automated bull blocking what I'm attempting to do. And yes it ruins my incentive to play the market game when this is the end result.

Just because you can't see a negative happening to you doesn't make it any less of a problem for those of us who would like to make an honest living. Actually try to supply a playerbase in a stable economy not rigged and broken by these bots. And actually enjoy the competition of crafting and market pvp (see above, I have no problem being that girl). And just because it's not a style you like doesn't make it any less valid then the rest of the combat content out there.