Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[AnAverageAspie]

I can imagine the wigs idea scenario
Devs: 'We half apologize for our implementation of hrothgar and viera. So these females, while unable to change haircuts like the males, making players hard earned hairstyles still useless. We decided to give em no hair and scatter rare, legendary wigs across the land in drops and recipes for you cat ladies to collect! While you still have to glamor them over, meaning you technically can't "equip" helmets and hair at once. We found this as a means to "compliment" the player experience~'

Wig mage runs!

[zeylos]

I can imagine the wigs idea scenario
Devs: 'We half apologize for our implementation of hrothgar and viera. So these females, while unable to change haircuts like the males, making players hard earned hairstyles still useless. We decided to give em no hair and scatter rare, legendary wigs across the land in drops and recipes for you cat ladies to collect! While you still have to glamor them over, meaning you technically can't "equip" helmets and hair at once. We found this as a means to "compliment" the player experience~'

Wig mage runs!

lmao is it bad that I can actually see this being plausible?

[SturmChurro]

lmao is it bad that I can actually see this being plausible?

It's not plausible. SE wouldn't make wigs - which are full on hairstyles - that only hrothgar females could use. We have yet to see a single new actual hairstyle for viera. If they can't do tail bow ties, ear cutouts for miqo'te, etc. they aren't going to do anything unique to this extent for female hrothgar.

Before the argument, "well then everyone can use wigs", remember SE saying "unique head shape" it wouldn't work out. They could do it, they just won't do it. I think.

[zeylos]

It's not plausible. SE wouldn't make wigs - which are full on hairstyles - that only hrothgar females could use. We have yet to see a single new actual hairstyle for viera. If they can't do tail bow ties, ear cutouts for miqo'te, etc. they aren't going to do anything unique to this extent for female hrothgar.

Before the argument, "well then everyone can use wigs" - remember SE saying "unique head shape" it wouldn't work out.

lmao I know it was meant to be sarcastic.

Anyways, Ive seen the encounter w the queen in youtube and I gotta say Im dissapointed, but it does give me a little amoutn of hope they pulled something similar with female miqote and Yugiri

[artypartytime]

ok.. i'm the outcast here but i kind of like that hrothgar cant have the regular hairstyles..
however i think that the hairstyle pages should add extras to their default looks.
So if we get a long hairstyle on the regular races male hrothgar could get long mane attachements or long beards.
if we get braids hrothgar could get a braid that comes on to their hairstyle. etc

however they do need more face options for sure.

[zeylos]

ok.. i'm the outcast here but i kind of like that hrothgar cant have the regular hairstyles..
however i think that the hairstyle pages should add extras to their default looks.
So if we get a long hairstyle on the regular races male hrothgar could get long mane attachements or long beards.
if we get braids hrothgar could get a braid that comes on to their hairstyle. etc

however they do need more face options for sure.

I think it isnt necessarily bad that hairs are race specfiic, but imo being able to at least choose it is a must, Im personally against them being tied to face tbh

[SturmChurro]

I think it isnt necessarily bad that hairs are race specfiic, but imo being able to at least choose it is a must, Im personally against them being tied to face tbh

Yes, It's not even hair being racial exclusive. The biggest problem with hrothgar, is that they don't actually have the option to change hair. They have to use a fantasia, and even so there is only 1 alternative style per face. It's extreme limiting. As for viera, they have the option of changing their hair and have racial unique styles - except SE hasn't actually added any new styles for them, or, for that matter, new faces for hrothgar with new hairs to choose from. All the while continuously releasing new hairs for every other race in the game. There is a large amount of purchased hairstyles that neither female viera or male hrothgar can use, with no racially unique hairstyle alternatives.

[zeylos]

Yes, It's not even hair being racial exclusive. The biggest problem with hrothgar, is that they don't actually have the option to change hair. They have to use a fantasia, and even so there is only 1 alternative style per face. It's extreme limiting. As for viera, they have the option of changing their hair and have racial unique styles - except SE hasn't actually added any new styles for them, or, for that matter, new faces for hrothgar with new hairs to choose from. All the while continuously releasing new hairs for every other race in the game. There is a large amount of purchased hairstyles that neither female viera or male hrothgar can use, with no racially unique hairstyle alternatives.

This is a pretty unpopular opinion but I like that female viera have their special hairstyles (Id actually like hairstyles to be more race-specific overall) but its completely unacceptable they dont have at least acces to the paid hairs and hats tbh, at least add more race specific ones, Fran's hair would be nice for example

[reivaxe]

It's not plausible. SE wouldn't make wigs - which are full on hairstyles - that only hrothgar females could use. We have yet to see a single new actual hairstyle for viera. If they can't do tail bow ties, ear cutouts for miqo'te, etc. they aren't going to do anything unique to this extent for female hrothgar.

Before the argument, "well then everyone can use wigs", remember SE saying "unique head shape" it wouldn't work out. They could do it, they just won't do it. I think.

Seems like my "wigs" term was taking outta context lmao!

No, I don't think it would be an item. Looking at Hrothgar males you have to ask yourself "whats stopping them from changing hair styles like Viera?".
When you look at mods that slap different manes on different heads you see that each head is designed to have different ear shapes and sizes as well as differences in foreheads. Some hair styles only clip a lil and some have far more severe clipping issues with that area of the head cause they were designed to suit their proper head. All 4 of the male heads are unique animal like heads and had their manes designed around their head exclusively. This is likely the reason it's a CC option and considered "manes" instead of hair, it's just a thing that's apart of their head.

Given the art work making the females look to have flatter, bald, more human leaning faces/ heads and the fact that the race is inspired by an animal with clear sexual-dimorphism leads me to think that limitations of the males manes prob wouldn't be reflected in females. Even more so when you realize it's the most controversial and scrutinized decision they made with the new races in ShB. Player-base can't really cry for them to "fix" the male's hair yet also desire they repeat the decision for any possible females when all they would have to do is create the females in a way where their heads/ hair styles aren't too unique to be shared between each other.

So you can call it "wigs" or hair.

[SturmChurro]

Seems like my "wigs" term was taking outta context lmao!

No, I don't think it would be an item. Looking at Hrothgar males you have to ask yourself "whats stopping them from changing hair styles like Viera?".
When you look at mods that slap different manes on different heads you see that each head is designed to have different ear shapes and sizes as well as differences in foreheads. Some hair styles only clip a lil and some have far more severe clipping issues with that area of the head cause they were designed to suit their proper head. All 4 of the male heads are unique animal like heads and had their manes designed around their head exclusively. This is likely the reason it's a CC option and considered "manes" instead of hair, it's just a thing that's apart of their head.

Given the art work making the females look to have flatter, bald, more human leaning faces/ heads and the fact that the race is inspired by an animal with clear sexual-dimorphism leads me to think that limitations of the males manes prob wouldn't be reflected in females. Even more so when you realize it's the most controversial and scrutinized decision they made with the new races in ShB.

So you can call it "wigs" or hair.

The problem is with viera they bring up the exact same excuse as with hrothgar, "unique heads". Which is, granted, a valid one (for hrothgar). I don't expect as pronounced features as males, but they probably would likely have different shaped heads just as the males. Even if there aren't as many variations in head shape - in comparison to males - AT BEST they would, and should hope for, the same treatment viera females get. At worst, even slight variations in the animal head shape(s) would put them in the same boat as the males.