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  1. #71
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    Used the buff loved it. Was sorry to see it go.

    SE isn't going to cater to a few disgruntle forum posters on this issue but then again that is what forums do give the few loud voices a platform to try and make it seem as if they are somehow representing the community and to have developers waste time on something like this. No toggle is needed if you don't want the buff create a character on a server without it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elkanah View Post
    I think you can also transfer to a world that doesn't have the bonus, and it wont carry over. I haven't tested this theory out, but I imagine that since it's based on the server itself, it wouldn't xfer
    You can't take a buff with you to another server and you can't transfer to a server with the buff and get it. You need to create a NEW character on that server when the server is in preferred status. Buff is good for that character for a minimum of 90 days even if the server is removed from preferred status after it's been created.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 01-18-2021 at 07:46 PM.

  2. #72
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    I think there is pros and cons.

    I wouldn’t want to be on one of these servers. I think the game is paced the way it is for a reason and with so much xp being thrown around you’d overlevel everything and your achievements (such as every job levelled) is diminished somewhat...

    But on the other hand I know of plenty of other people that would love this. And I think on the whole it’s a good idea at this late stage in the game to let new players catch up.

    A buff that you can switch on and off perhaps would be the best way rather than permanently committing you to high xp gains.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Just because you don't agree that there is a problem doesn't make it a troll post. There have also been some troll posts that sparked some very thoughtful and constructive discussion.
    Did you read what he said?

    A = "Why do people fall constantly for troll bait that I am using right now to troll?"

    B = "How is it possible NOT to see this is a troll post I am posting?"

    It’s a contradiction because he is the troll. But the point is valid. Why respond to him if he’s trolling? I just reported him.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ammokkx View Post
    Please link me to where it is stated, as a fact, that you absolutely should be at one certain type of level doing nothing but main story and job content.

    For someone who says I don't know what the definition of literally is, a word that is used in hyperbolic all the time, you sure don't seem to know the definition of "fact"

    Facts are objective truths with no room for interpretation. You needing to be at one certain level doing one certain type of thing is not a fact; that is your bias from how an MMO should be designed talking. If it was a fact, I wouldn't even be arguing why you're wrong because there's no measure of subjectivity.

    And if you're wondering why you're still "too strong on sync" then please keep in mind even if you were at the appropriate level, all you would need is the strongest gear for that level and you'd be equally as strong. That gear being... whatever you find in the dungeon you're running.
    First, maybe link yourself claiming that. Considering you're the only one who ever claimed you claimed that.

    Clearly you don't know what literally means. Considering it implies the direct opposite of hyperbolic. Nor do you know what fact means. When a fact has absolutely nothing to do with your choice of - "wouldn't even be arguing".

    Not to mention, I have no clue what relevance you plan to achieve regarding multiple classes you overleveled. Other than providing hard evidence of the factual problem I mentioned.

    Furthermore, I never once stated anything about forcing users to not level beyond main quest content. So keep ignoring what was I stated regarding a design in which users can only level past main campaign content by doing something extra. Quite the opposite of the entire point about a poor design of users leveling past content by doing absolutely nothing.

    Funny thing about that - some user showed up online today asking if he should start another class because the class he was on ended up outleveling his MSQ. As in on a default standard server with no double exp boost. So keep claiming as if a major common concern from many users is not a problem. Apparently the game was recently altered over the summer which might be causing the problem in the default game.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintessa View Post
    Avoid sanctuary bonus(x1.5) by logging out in non sanctuary areas is the best I could think of.
    This is just the unfortunate truth about how the game is at default. It's not even logging out. You get it even while logged in just for being in town. I mean it seems like a decent mechanic. But maybe x1.2 would make more sense. And that's if the game at default had reasonable exp gain. It's definitely a bad thing when exp by default is already overboard.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    SE isn't going to cater to a few disgruntle forum posters on this issue but then again that is what forums do give the few loud voices a platform to try and make it seem as if they are somehow representing the community and to have developers waste time on something like this. No toggle is needed if you don't want the buff create a character on a server without it.

    You can't take a buff with you to another server and you can't transfer to a server with the buff and get it. You need to create a NEW character on that server when the server is in preferred status. Buff is good for that character for a minimum of 90 days even if the server is removed from preferred status after it's been created.
    You're clearly trolling. Hence, the only one disgruntled is you. So troll all you want. Forum allows users to discuss feedback for improvement. That is a fact regardless of any of your troll BS.

    Also, that user is 100% correct about the workaround making a character on a standard server without the buff. Then, and transferring it over to the preferred server. I even contacted tech support about it. The only way to do it for free is if the server your character is on is congested. I made multiple characters on multiple standard servers to test this out. Just checking now and then for one to get congested to see if it will work.
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    Last edited by coolskill; 01-19-2021 at 07:13 AM.

  5. #75
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    I believe SWTOR has a NPC that you can talk to to cut your XP gains in half during Double XP events. And WoW has an NPC that allows you to halt your leveling progress. Those would be good options for this game.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrany View Post
    I do not want to have to google every quest to see if it MIGHT be one that goes to the next xpac.
    Friendly tip: MSQ quest markers look *very* different from other markers.

    quest markers that teach you new skills, give you new optional dungeons, give you emotes etc etc will be blue. quest markers for unimportant side questlines will be plain tan and look like upside down water droplets. they look similar to the blue ones, just tan. MSQ quests will have a funky shape. You won't really move on to the next XPACs side content if you're not in the next XPACs area.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolskill View Post
    The only one baseless is trolls like you who go onto the internet for the sole purpose of abuse/personal attacks. Therefore, reported. Get lost.
    There was nothing abusive or inflammatory about what they said, in fact the only one being inflammatory here is you, in this instance.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vickii View Post
    I wouldn’t want to be on one of these servers. I think the game is paced the way it is for a reason and with so much xp being thrown around you’d overlevel everything and your achievements (such as every job levelled) is diminished somewhat...
    Yeah, but you can't tell me the pace from old expacs has been preserved.
    OG ARR took a million years to get to level 50. Now it can happen in a few days.
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    There was nothing abusive or inflammatory about what they said, in fact the only one being inflammatory here is you, in this instance.
    Ya OK. As if I was the one calling anybody:
    "disgruntle forum posters"
    "make it seem as if they are somehow representing the community"

    Get real. Anybody clearly entering discussion for the sole purpose of abuse and to start a flame war = commonly known as trolling. Hence, reported.
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    Last edited by coolskill; 01-19-2021 at 05:59 PM.

  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolskill View Post
    Ya OK. As if I was the one calling anybody:
    "disgruntle forum posters"
    "make it seem as if they are somehow representing the community"

    Get real. Anybody clearly entering discussion for the sole purpose of abuse and to start a flame war = commonly known as trolling. Hence, reported.
    So let's go over your complaints here.

    1. Speed runs you.
    2. Game becomes to easy.
    3. Level synced to content that should be your progression.
    4. Exp, exp, exp.

    TBH, it's all baseless whining. While you may be a new player you are forgetting something important that a good amount of MMO's do when they have been out for a while. And that's making leveling easier to catch you up to the current content. However FFXIV is different because everything is locked behind the MSQ and dungeons. So it doesn't matter what level you are anyways. You can be max level all you want but you aren't going to be doing anything level 80ish until you start completing that MSQ that you abandoned at Lv.25. So as follows...

    1. No, it doesn't speedrun you. If it did then there would be no need to sell the MSQ completion books for each expansion except Shadowbringers in the store. Leveling faster doesn't mean you will be completing your MSQ and sync dungeons faster. You still do that at your own pace.
    2. Past content is already made easier with each new expansion. The longer a MMO is out the easier beginning or earlier content will be to catch you up, etc. This applies to 3 and 4 as well.

    You may think it may make the game "Easy" but in reality the game IS easy throughout the MSQ and such. If you want a challenge then you need to reach Lv.80 and start doing Savage/Extreme raids, etc. And once you hit Lv.70 and that buff wears off, getting to 80 will take you a bit the first time going through the MSQ. And of course if you want to level everything to 80 it will take you even longer.
    Tell me where they said what you've said they said? They broke down your argument to it's base points, which are that the game becomes too easy and you run through content too quick, and that you do not want to speed run the game. They made it known to you that regardless of your level you will only run the game at whichever pace you pick, it depends on how fast you complete the story.

    I'd like to add that, considering you can purchase Gear that is at the level you wish to be (ie if you're 30 but your MSQ is 15, purchase level 15 gear from vendors), you won't really out gear content either if you don't want to. If you wish to play the game as level 15, you can, the only difference being overworld mobs won't attack you when walking or riding from place to place.

    I've looked through this person's posts, they've posted one thing in this thread, and that was what they said to you. Their post is not edited, and does not contain any abusive or inflammatory language. Your misconception of what they said does not = what they actually said.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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