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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    Unukalhai specifically notes his and Taynor's physical similarities and that they have equivalent and compatible aether. Taynor describes him as "feeling like an old friend", but then you would feel that way about your own soul, wouldn't you?
    Unless the perosn actually is "an old friend" in a different body. I read the story as Unukalhai is a fragment of Nyelbert. And their physical similarities and age were more of Taynor and Unukalhai/Nyelbert finally catching up on even ground after all the time, and distance, and worlds that have seperated them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    Unless the perosn actually is "an old friend" in a different body. I read the story as Unukalhai is a fragment of Nyelbert. And their physical similarities and age were more of Taynor and Unukalhai/Nyelbert finally catching up on even ground after all the time, and distance, and worlds that have seperated them.
    That doesn't really explain the instant attunement of their aether or why they broached the problem of Unukalhai being bodiless. It seems to me to be a clear setup for them to be rejoined in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    That doesn't really explain the instant attunement of their aether or why they broached the problem of Unukalhai being bodiless. It seems to me to be a clear setup for them to be rejoined in the future.
    The instant attunement would be because of the shortcut Unukalhai took, which was stated that he still picked it up fast even with the shortcut. Also, him being "bodiless" wouldn't be as much of a hindrance as one would think, given the information we've gained from Shadowbringers, and about how Unukalhai and Cyella escaped the Thirteenth.

    Also the physical similarities was most likely mentioned because the two individuals performing the technique need to be of equal standing to perform it correctly. Sorta like how people are divided for sports based on their physicality.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 01-15-2021 at 09:34 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    That doesn't really explain the instant attunement of their aether or why they broached the problem of Unukalhai being bodiless. It seems to me to be a clear setup for them to be rejoined in the future.
    No it continues to follow through that Unukalhai is Nylbert because both became candidates for their shards WOL. Unukalhai and Taynor attune easily because of the history of Taynor and Nylbert and how they used to work together before Nylbert became a WOL and Taynor was lost in the rift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    No it continues to follow through that Unukalhai is Nylbert because both became candidates for their shards WOL. Unukalhai and Taynor attune easily because of the history of Taynor and Nylbert and how they used to work together before Nylbert became a WOL and Taynor was lost in the rift.
    I don't know, "Your breath is my breath, your aether is my aether" is kind of on-the-nose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    I get why people want to see Minfilia and Ryne as sharing souls or being clones, but I really feel like Shadowbringers was suppose to make you look at Ryne as Minfilia's daughter, not her doppelganger. Yes Ryne has the oracle powers she inherited, but she also doesn't have the echo, nor does she look like Minfilia (vaguely at best), and she clearly is a separate soul. Then when you have the Thancred's second chance at fatherhood plot thread, I feel this was the intended way to look at Ryne--a Minfilia offspring.
    That's how I view it. The analogy I used in another thread was exactly that. Thancred felt the loss of his sister/surrogate daughter and couldn't seperate the feelings he had for the original Minfilia from his budding feeling/obligation towards Ryne his niece/new surrogate daughter. While it's easy to say we love our family members, how our relationships connect with one another determine our feelings towards them. I used this example because it happened to me irl, my sister isn't "gone" per se, she's just not a good person; and seeing my nephew reminded me too much of her, it was painful, but it wasn't my nephew's fault. But separating my feelings was difficult at times, because, it goes without saying, that children are a reminder of their parents.

    It's similar to a reddit post I saw once, where someone said they loved Lyse's character because they literally lived their life like that for a time. Art imitates life indeed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    I don't know, "Your breath is my breath, your aether is my aether" is kind of on-the-nose.
    I'm pretty sure that's just a common way of saying we act as one, not hinting that they are one. Kinda like calling someone your shield or your sword, they aren't literally... unless it's an anime, then who knows, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    I don't know, "Your breath is my breath, your aether is my aether" is kind of on-the-nose.
    Sounds almost like a marriage proposal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    I don't know, "Your breath is my breath, your aether is my aether" is kind of on-the-nose.
    Idk, I took that this line to mean a more romantic inclination. Actually, it would be kinda cute, if and when they meet Ryne and Gaia they are motivated to act on their feelings.
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