I hope the XIV team feels the pressure

[Daniolaut]

I really hope this "big announcement" for 2021 isnt just the expansion and nothing else big along side it.

After cutting out:
(SH=Shadowbringers.)

-Actual zone areas within raids, making them just a platform and a boss
-Numerous trials (16 for ARR, 7 for HW, 9 for SB, only 6 so far for SH)
-Numerous dungeons (18 for HW, 15 for SB, only 11 for SH so far)
-Reducing Map dungeons from 7 floors to 5 floors.
-Deleting/not expanding thief map dungeons for SH
-Not creating primal/trial weapons for GNB/DNC
-Not creating all headgear or hairstyles for Hrothgar/Viera
-Skipping All-Saints Wake Seasonal Event.


The reason?

The nearly 20 year old Final Fantasy XI, team is right now pushing out more than they are expected to.


Not only did the FFXI team not skip any seasonal events, but have already announced huge plans for 2021.

we're proud that we were able to bring you the first several entries in The Voracious Resurgence, our all-new storyline that will carry us from August 2020 through the 20th Vana'versary. We were also able to bring you Mandragora Mania, a new twist to the Harvest Festival event, and a variety of other seasonal activities.

...Additionally, we're looking to expand storage options and implement new character growth options for all jobs.

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...25/detail.html

What that means, is they are getting new:

-Story content
-Job/leveling/customization expansions (for all jobs not just some, nothing limited there.)
-New event Mandragora Mania
-Only new content
-Equal attention/gear/glamour/customization for all jobs
-Bonus Campaigns
-Seasonal events

without deleting:

-No discontinuation of any seasonal or regular events
-No cancelation of any content
-No deletion of any quests or content


So, if the FFXI is capable of so much, it begs to question why the XIV constantly complains of server, system, coding and such reasons as to why they cant balance jobs, release content, or fix existing issues.

At this point FFXI has just about everything FFXIV has but significantly more, and running on older systems and coding.

[Daniolaut]

Before anyone tries to sound smart and say

"Why dont you just go play FFXI"

I play both. That is a thing. Its possible to play more than 1 game at a time. It is no revelation.

Also

"two different games."

Yes FFXI is nearly 20 years old, FFXIV was "reborn" so it should be better and making more money, so it should not be struggling to keep up with FFXI in terms of development, especially when FFXI has more jobs, and more complex systems such as merits, job points, specialized gear you name it.


So I'm very excited to hear what XIV has in store, to outclass and outperform its predecessor!

What do you think FFXIV has in store?

[Doki]

FFXI is capable of releasing new content in which you fight the same enemies you fought back in 2003... but on a palette swapped texture copy of Crawler's Nest. Don't act like it takes nearly the same amount of effort.

[Daniolaut]

FFXI is capable of releasing new content in which you fight the same enemies you fought back in 2003... but on a palette swapped texture copy of Crawler's Nest. Don't act like it takes nearly the same amount of effort.

The difference of mobs in Ambuscade is about the difference in Eden's Verse and Eden's Gate.

Its just mobs with rehashed mechanics, but with a new paint job.

Dont try to act like XIV creates completely fresh, new and exciting content with each patch. The dungeons are all exactly the same layouts, just a line of trash, to a boss, repeat x3 with rehashed mechanics. Dont try to act like it takes significantly more effort for XIV to copy paste content.

Also the topic at hand here is what XIV has in store. I simply pointed out what XI is doing big for 2021 and we havent heard what XIV is doing yet, so what do you think they are doing that is going to be part of this "big announcement" ? Do you think its "just the expansion" or something more. I expect something more.

[Garnix]

Well, if you are expecting more, you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
If there is anything else announced, it will be some 5.5 content, similar to how they announced Blue Mage in the first Shadowbringers keynote.

[ItMe]

Do you think its "just the expansion" or something more. I expect something more.

Why?
Simply because you're unhappy?
Or have they given an indication they will be announcing "something more?"

[Rymi64]

I really hope this "big announcement" for 2021 isnt just the expansion and nothing else big along side it.

After cutting out:
(SH=Shadowbringers.)

-Actual zone areas within raids, making them just a platform and a boss
-Numerous trials (16 for ARR, 7 for HW, 9 for SB, only 6 so far for SH)
-Numerous dungeons (18 for HW, 15 for SB, only 11 for SH so far)
-Reducing Map dungeons from 7 floors to 5 floors.
-Deleting/not expanding thief map dungeons for SH
-Not creating primal/trial weapons for GNB/DNC
-Not creating all headgear or hairstyles for Hrothgar/Viera
-Skipping All-Saints Wake Seasonal Event.

-I'm assuming you're refering to 8-man raids and they stopped doing that because people prefer it like this better than having small hallways with trash and then a boss.
-ARR is an outlier here since its the base game so they put a lot of trials from 1-50. And ShB has 7 trials rn not 6 (Memoria misera)
-They reduced dungeons because they originally put a lot of dungeons in to give people more things to do instead of having no content i.e padding but now they are putting those extra resources for dungeons into other areas like exploration zones (eureka, bozja)
-You want to contend with MORE luck having to go through seven floors?
-Covid really do be messing with their progress my guy. Everything got pushed back a bit because of the whole thing that everything is gonna take a bit more time to make (especially since they seem to be getting to their limit for weapon design timings at this point)

So, if the FFXI is capable of so much, it begs to question why the XIV constantly complains of server, system, coding and such reasons as to why they cant balance jobs, release content, or fix existing issues.

You said it yourself that they are different games so they take different server load, system stuff, and this game was built on a code that was pretty trash to begin with. Jobs in 14 are balanced people just don't like how some play vs others and some people don't care about balance and just want a job to be fun balance be damned. Plus 11 finished it story already while 14 is still going through its story and adding stuff constantly.

Most likely the big announcement in Feb is 6.0 and some info for it and then 5.5 info possibly

[Cylla]

Plus 11 finished it story.

Semi-Wrong
XI is currently releasing a new story called, "The Voracious Resurgence" in small sections. Every update or so they'll be adding more to the story until the anniversary of XI to which at that point they said they'd have a big announcement.

[Theodric]

It's the lack of depth to 8 man raids that bothers me the most. They're really just glorified trials at this point and one of the reasons I don't feel any eagerness to raid much in this game.

I have very fond memories of running the likes of Black Temple, Icecrown Citadel, Karazhan and Sunwell Plateau back when I played World of Warcraft. I'd really like FFXIV to take a similar route. Make raids into a journey, not a series of circular rooms. Make trash enemies flavoursome and make them drop interesting loot. I typically enjoy the 24 man raids much more because they capture a lot of what I liked about raiding back in WoW.

[Kiurai]

I don't really know what else you're expecting them to say, most of that will probably be slides during the 14hr broadcast, and will release like normal, since the Feb announcement is the NA and JP fanfest info combined, I also don't know why they'd feeled pressured by the XI announcement like that is identical in tone to the statement YoshiP made about the February announcements and 5.4, they'll always tell you alot is coming soon, but I don't see them addressing every problem point especially ones so specific when you're building expac hype.