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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    The only good thing with "race" specific gear in GW2 is that the charr often get unique outfits for their tails too... on armors and outfits that can be worn by any race. There are otherwise multiple instances of NPC of a race using another races cultural armor, again proving that the restrictions in place are arbitrary.
    That's fairly narrow minded. To ME the Sylvari look awkward in reg gear which is why I loved that they made serval sets like this that actually look like they grew out of these plant people. It's a game where even though I played it for years I was content sticking to race/ culture gear for my Sylvari main cause there were so many parts from different sets you could mix and match. Sure, they have added "plant themed" armor that other races can wear but that ultimately adds to sylvari to for someone like me who wants to RP the whole plant origins seeing as they still have a good number of gears only they can wear anyway.

    I'd LOVE IT if the Devs made, saaay ... a mid armor set for each race that's customized for their features like the starter gear. Draggos get a helm that's designed around them having horns to make it clear that they have room around the base for their horns and reflects their unique culture. If I had it my way there would be a underwear/ starter gear (what we already have) and Light/ mid/ heavy looking glam armor that are all race themed and locked that really lean into their cultures.
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    Narrow minded that I'm pointing out the flaws of arbitrarily restrict outfits because "reasons"?

    The amount of people here wishing to deprive choice in favor of completely pointless restrictions is depressing to say the least.

    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    I'd LOVE IT if the Devs made, saaay ... a mid armor set for each race that's customized for their features like the starter gear. Draggos get a helm that's designed around them having horns to make it clear that they have room around the base for their horns and reflects their unique culture. If I had it my way there would be a underwear/ starter gear (what we already have) and Light/ mid/ heavy looking glam armor that are all race themed and locked that really lean into their cultures.
    We already have this in plenty, but it is mainly restricted to differences for roles as seen with late allagan, Alliance and plenty of other sets where the tank verson got a cloak or extra armor while the ranged or whatever other role that shares a version don't have those... And shocker there are multiple NPC's scattered around using these armors without filling the role restrictions put on us players, aka arbitrary restrictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Narrow minded that I'm pointing out the flaws of arbitrarily restrict outfits because "reasons"?
    Hmm? You haven't pointed out the "flaws" in anything lmao!

    I said it's narrow minded because you boiled all the things I or anyone could possibly like about GW2 culture armor down to "Charrs have armor that accounts for tail" and seem to think random NPCs wearing armor players can't wear is some proof that they should allow the armor to not be unique to those races. There's no flaw here, race/ culture armor is race locked because it's designed to give your character gear made just for their body and aesthetics instead of allowing every random smuck playing w/e race to wear it. IMO it's like wanting a cat boi to have the option to have the same animations as a Lala-male. Like ... their unique racial animations are a part of their racial identity and were designed to re-enforce that.

    "But Viera and Hrothgar!"
    Yeah, tell me how these 2 races are well done and there's no gear complaints for them.

    The amount of people here wishing to deprive choice in favor of completely pointless restrictions is depressing to say the least.
    I think restrictions can add to creativity and world building in some cases and in this case it adds to racial/ cultural identity in worlds with deep lore. I'd gladly take the structure from GW2 where each gender for each race gets 3 sets each of light/ mid/ heavy glam only they can wear that was tailor made for them and their lore. I want more gear like the hempen set that changes design completely automatically (which also works the same for GW2 wedding attire)



    We already have this in plenty, but it is mainly restricted to differences for roles as seen with late allagan, Alliance and plenty of other sets where the tank verson got a cloak or extra armor while the ranged or whatever other role that shares a version don't have those... And shocker there are multiple NPC's scattered around using these armors without filling the role restrictions put on us players, aka arbitrary restrictions.
    That's not what I'm asking for, I'm asking for combat versions of the starter gear.
    And again, devs wanting to make some NPCs unique doesn't make the restrictions "arbitrary".
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post

    I think restrictions can add to creativity and world building in some cases and in this case it adds to racial/ cultural identity in worlds with deep lore.
    While this sounds really good on paper, in this particular setting the races are less separate tribes in their own pockets of civilisation and more like melting pots. Roegadyn from limsa dress different from roegadyn in abalathia's spine and different from eastern roegadyn, its like that for every race. The only ones that are isolated enough to be considered a culture unto themselves are wildwood elezen, and even then they mix with hyur in both gridania and ishgard.

    The only compromise for this idea is to add more regional clothing accessible for all races or make clothes tailored for specific anatomy quirks regardless of actual culture. I will be selling my extra long giraffe scarves at 2million gill each, I've seen ishgard you lot can afford it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    That's not what I'm asking for, I'm asking for combat versions of the starter gear.
    And again, devs wanting to make some NPCs unique doesn't make the restrictions "arbitrary".
    Uh, yes it does. The very definition of arbitrary is a restriction without reason. If a Bard NPC can wear a tank set, having the gear restricted serves no purpose. It obviously isn't lore or cultural based since random NPCs aren't abiding to it. I'll go one better and point to the myriad of reused gear. The 77 set from Malikah's Well was restricted to Gatherers in Stormblood yet now it's combat ready despite zero aesthetic change. You can't get much more arbitrary than that.
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