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    I find this thread comical. Thank you for the laugh. What exactly does the year have to do with anything? You will always have race restrictions on those items because SE, the company that develops this game wants it to be that way. I know its hard when you can't complain and have things change the way you want them to. That is life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    What exactly does the year have to do with anything?
    It basically means "look how far we have come as a society and how many equality issues we've solved, how does this inequality still exist?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    It basically means "look how far we have come as a society and how many equality issues we've solved, how does this inequality still exist?"
    People actually think this is an inequality that has to be resolved? (Zenos voice) Pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    It basically means "look how far we have come as a society and how many equality issues we've solved, how does this inequality still exist?"
    Yeah, but this isnt an "inequality". Every race has one (in terms of racial gear anyway, now that hempen sets aren't race specific due to new races). Inequality means not equal. Its currently pretty equal still.

    If only catgirls got new racial gear, then you could talk about inequality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Yeah, but this isnt an "inequality". Every race has one (in terms of racial gear anyway, now that hempen sets aren't race specific due to new races). Inequality means not equal. Its currently pretty equal still.
    I'm pretty sure women not being allowed to wear pants was seen as an equality issue in the 1800s and early 1900s, even though everyone was permitted (and even required) to wear clothes in general. In a lot of places it's even been illegal for women to dress as men. Even today men wearing skirts or dresses are seen as weird.

    Similarly, if black people were not allowed to wear the same clothes as white people, that would be an equality issue. Different cultures have their own preferred style of clothing, but anyone can wear any clothes if they want.

    FFXIV meanwhile outright prohibits certain races from wearing certain styles of clothing (whether through race-locked items or gear which varies its appearance based on who wears it). So yes, I can see that as an equality issue. Not a terribly important one, given the low number of such items, but an equality issue nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    It basically means "look how far we have come as a society and how many equality issues we've solved, how does this inequality still exist?"
    In this case I would say the year 2021 is there because people have been asking for this for years and years and it still hasn't happened.

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...pen-set-styles
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...Y-UNLOCKED-now
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-Racial-Unlock
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...d-Show-Support
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-For-All-Races
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ng-Hempen-sets.
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...l-Races-Please
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...or-other-races

    I made a thread asking for them in 2014. It has nothing to do with equality, people just want more glams.
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    The mods really should condense this thread and all of those into one thread. The first one even has a reply from a mod saying the devs want to monitor player feedback. :B
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    It basically means "look how far we have come as a society and how many equality issues we've solved, how does this inequality still exist?"
    The belief that 'many' equality issues in the real world have been solved is both hopeful and wrong.

    There are plenty of equality issues still to be resolved in our world. Taking care of those is more important than bits-and-bytes in a video game. Go forth and make the real world a better place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    The belief that 'many' equality issues in the real world have been solved is both hopeful and wrong.
    Abolishment of slavery. Ability to own property. Women's suffrage. Classless society. Freedom of religion. Education and availability of information. Public healthcare. Gay marriage. Those are some pretty important equality issues of various kinds which have been largely solved in at least some parts of the world. I know some countries are not doing quite as well as others, but even so I think we've come quite far since the middle ages. Of course there's still more to be solved; some of today's hot topics are minority genders and income differences. I'm not sure if it's ever possible to solve everything, because as old issues are addressed, people are free to think of new injustices which were too insignificant to worry about before.
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