The Trust system will always remain a failure and garbage to me

[SomeRandomHuman]

Oh I know . Although I didn’t see Dohn Mheg yet! I love how they all have their own way to get across and Ryne is super catious and takes forever bless her.

[hb]He’s max level though so while I’m levelling trusts I’m kinda stuck with Thancred as it’s pointless to use him and miss out on xp.

It always felt a bit odd that there were 3 dps, 2 healers and 1 tank rather than 2/2/2. It’s hard for me to get both Alisae and Ryne in and they’re my favorites . Yshtola never gets a turn. [\hb]

I you want to level them all efficiently you have to level a dps and tank with them.

Otherwise here's some tips with trusts:
-Always pair Rhyne with Thancred. He won't do the cartridge combo without her.
-Thancred is also like 10x more tanky than WoLs. He has damage down that he inflicts in aoe around him from time to time ontop of his own regen.
-Never use both Twins at once. Alphi will always prioritize Alis over everything else no matter what.
-Y'shtola actually casts her spells in a set order and not a 100% random fashion. Also her foul makes all BLMs jelly at how it chunks bosses.

[Canadane]

Lol what? No they don't. Join a regular group and pull three packs of mobs and then do a Trust and pull the same three packs of mobs, see which one takes longer. The answer will always be the Trust group.

You’re correct partially.
Their DPS doesn’t adjust to yours. They do however adjust to how long the instance is taking.
They’ll get stronger the longer you take. One reason could be due to your own lack of DPS, maybe that’s what they meant? But either way they normalize a run time.
You are very correct a real team will run much faster. 15 minutes or so is what I generally expect. Trusts are absolutely slower by comparison.

One advantage they have us, you can go pull a couple packs and walk away to do something else. Make a cup of coffee or clean up or do some workout sets real quick. You come back and they’re just waiting for the next pull. It’s easy passive leveling if you’re otherwise doing something else.

[kaynide]

@OP: Did you consider the fact they were meant to be inferior to real-player parties, to encourage party play?

For me, they certainly still get the job done with the occasional AI goof, but I'm good with that if I'm running a dungeon + watching netflix or doing laundry and might have to afk mid dungeon. Wouldn't do that to real people and am very grateful for this option.

My wife is extremely nervous around unknown people IRL and in game and doesn't really "do dungeons well" with pugs, so for her the Trust system eliminates a huge headache of arranging times with FC members to do the dungeon/trial together.

So, I'd say "working as intended" and "very appreciated addition".

[SturmChurro]

My wife is extremely nervous around unknown people IRL and in game and doesn't really "do dungeons well" with pugs, so for her the Trust system eliminates a huge headache of arranging times with FC members to do the dungeon/trial together.

So, I'd say "working as intended" and "very appreciated addition".

This is an mmorpg though.

[Ammokkx]

This is an mmorpg though.

An MMO with a lot of single player content, even.

[Masked-dingus]

This is an mmorpg though.

Except you can't blame this wife for liking a game, even if she isn't feeling relaxed towards strangers... I'm happy she can use this content to enjoy her time playing, so yeah in that case, trusts are a worthy addition

Also, saying that after being like '' trusts sucks but i never tried them '' clearly shows that you have nothing to say worthy to be taken into consideration, so, have a good day

[SturmChurro]

Except you can't blame this wife for liking a game, even if she isn't feeling relaxed towards strangers... I'm happy she can use this content to enjoy her time playing, so yeah in that case, trusts are a worthy addition

Also, saying that after being like '' trusts sucks but i never tried them '' clearly shows that you have nothing to say worthy to be taken into consideration, so, have a good day

I obviously did, otherwise I don't think you would have replied.

[Liam_Harper]

I do agree the trusts are a little too slow. I'd personally introduce something similar to the Trust Mastery system, where you can unlock traits such as aoe, increased damage and so on by completing dungeons once you've leveled the Trust to 80. At least then you work for it and for your investment have something you can use to level alt classes efficiently.

Their DPS doesn’t adjust to yours. They do however adjust to how long the instance is taking.
They’ll get stronger the longer you take. One reason could be due to your own lack of DPS, maybe that’s what they meant? But either way they normalize a run time.

I always found this a strange system because it encourages you to afk during trash packs. And as a dps you easily can on most packs. You could also view it as a punishment for maximizing damage, since your Trust essentially start slacking off if you do.

[SnowVix]

i treat trust as a way to learn the dungeon my first time running it, then a way to do a dungeon while i'm making dinner after that

[Masked-dingus]

i treat trust as a way to learn the dungeon my first time running it, then a way to do a dungeon while i'm making dinner after that

That's the smart things to do, when you're short on time or probably going to be semi afk, to run your dungeon with trusts instead of a party of people. And avoid situations where someone would just quit in the middle of the run, as well as avoiding having people flaming you because you have dinner, or kids, or something to deal with in the middle of your run

I've seen a lot of people replying that way, using the trusts to learn when 1st timers etc... And i think you guys are the best example of the opposite of the toxicity happening in dungeons, just gonna end on that positive note