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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vickii View Post
    3.) Another pure tank class would be appreciated as I don’t like Thancred. Let Ryne tank.
    Big spoiler if you haven't finished 5.3, but....

    After completing the main story, G'raha Tia can be used as a Trust. He keeps his All-Rounder status from the first run of Holminster Switch as the Crystal Exarch, so he can tank (as a paladin). He even gets his own method of dealing with the tightrope section on the last boss of Dohn Mheg.
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    Rosenstrauch's Avatar
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    Wind-up Antecedent
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vickii View Post
    Here are my suggestions for trusts.

    1) give me Ryne back, she’s my best one and my favorite. Give her back now.

    2) Let Ryne do that ninja aoe with the throwing stars.

    3.) Another pure tank class would be appreciated as I don’t like Thancred. Let Ryne tank.
    I second this, and think we should take it a few steps further. Make Ryne an All-Rounder and allow us to take four Rynes with us into dungeons. One can tank, one can heal, the other two can DPS, and I can cheer them on from the sidelines. Maybe even give them cookies and other snacks when they beat the dungeon.
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Trust is a good system to help new players get through old content that people don't run anymore.
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    Player Ammokkx's Avatar
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    I'm not sure why the trust system would be a "failure" because the AI doesn't use AoE attacks.

    Trusts are very optional content. You don't even have to use them in the story, and they were practically made for that. You could program them to be damn near flawless and optimal, but at that point you'd have no reason to run the dungeon with real people (who have the ability to not play optimal and fuck up mechanics, unlike trusts).

    Besides, while trusts are slower, they're not that much slower. You can also AFK pretty much every pull, even as a tank. Hit 3 AoEs with tank stance on and tab out for a bit. Easiest content in the game.
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    Vickii's Avatar
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    Elise Marie
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Big spoiler if you haven't finished 5.3, but....

    After completing the main story, G'raha Tia can be used as a Trust. He keeps his All-Rounder status from the first run of Holminster Switch as the Crystal Exarch, so he can tank (as a paladin). He even gets his own method of dealing with the tightrope section on the last boss of Dohn Mheg.

    Oh I know . Although I didn’t see Dohn Mheg yet! I love how they all have their own way to get across and Ryne is super catious and takes forever bless her.

    [hb]He’s max level though so while I’m levelling trusts I’m kinda stuck with Thancred as it’s pointless to use him and miss out on xp.

    It always felt a bit odd that there were 3 dps, 2 healers and 1 tank rather than 2/2/2. It’s hard for me to get both Alisae and Ryne in and they’re my favorites . Yshtola never gets a turn. [\hb]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vickii View Post
    Oh I know . Although I didn’t see Dohn Mheg yet! I love how they all have their own way to get across and Ryne is super catious and takes forever bless her.

    [hb]He’s max level though so while I’m levelling trusts I’m kinda stuck with Thancred as it’s pointless to use him and miss out on xp.

    It always felt a bit odd that there were 3 dps, 2 healers and 1 tank rather than 2/2/2. It’s hard for me to get both Alisae and Ryne in and they’re my favorites . Yshtola never gets a turn. [\hb]
    I you want to level them all efficiently you have to level a dps and tank with them.

    Otherwise here's some tips with trusts:
    -Always pair Rhyne with Thancred. He won't do the cartridge combo without her.
    -Thancred is also like 10x more tanky than WoLs. He has damage down that he inflicts in aoe around him from time to time ontop of his own regen.
    -Never use both Twins at once. Alphi will always prioritize Alis over everything else no matter what.
    -Y'shtola actually casts her spells in a set order and not a 100% random fashion. Also her foul makes all BLMs jelly at how it chunks bosses.
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    Last edited by SomeRandomHuman; 12-27-2020 at 07:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Big spoiler if you haven't finished 5.3, but....

    After completing the main story, G'raha Tia can be used as a Trust. He keeps his All-Rounder status from the first run of Holminster Switch as the Crystal Exarch, so he can tank (as a paladin). He even gets his own method of dealing with the tightrope section on the last boss of Dohn Mheg.

    Oh I know . Although I didn’t see Dohn Mheg yet! I love how they all have their own way to get across and Ryne is super catious and takes forever bless her.

    He’s max level though so while I’m levelling trusts I’m kinda stuck with Thancred as it’s pointless to use him and miss out on xp.

    It always felt a bit odd that there were 3 dps, 2 healers and 1 tank rather than 2/2/2. It’s hard for me to get both Alisae and Ryne in and they’re my favorites . Yshtola never gets a turn.
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    Sturm Churro
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    Here's a secret: I still have never once done a trust.
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

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    Player Ammokkx's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Here's a secret: I still have never once done a trust.
    Not sure how that applies to the topic at hand, but good for you I s'pose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammokkx View Post
    Not sure how that applies to the topic at hand, but good for you I s'pose.
    ...because it sucks!
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